Mr. Ball.

Is that on Westbrook?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; the entrance to the garage there, more or less carport; yes, the entrance is from Westbrook.

Mr. Ball.

As you were having breakfast did your mother say anything to you about

Mr. Frazier.

Well, I say--

Mr. Ball.

Oswald?

Mr. Frazier.

I was sitting there eating my breakfast there, so sitting there, I usually talk to my little nieces, you know, they have them cartoons on for a while and we usually talk a little bit back and forth while eating breakfast and I was just finishing my coffee there and my sister, you know, was working over there around, you know the sink there, and she was fixing my lunch so she was somewhere around there over on the cabinets fixing the cabinets and mother just happened to glance up and saw this man, you know, who was Lee looking in the window for me and she said, "Who is that?"
And I said, "That is Lee," and naturally he just walked around and so I thought he just walked around there on the carport right there close to the door and so I told her I had to go, so I went in there and brushed my teeth right quick and come through there and I usually have my coat laying somewhere on the chair and picked it up and put it on and by that time my sister had my lunch, you know, in a sack and sitting over there on the washer where I picked it up right there by the door and I just walked on out and we got in the car.

Mr. Ball.

Now, did your sister say anything as you were having breakfast?

Mr. Frazier.

No; she didn't say anything to me at all.

Mr. Ball.

She didn't say anything to you either about Oswald or did she?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; say, she didn't say, you know, when I looked up and saw him I knew who it was.

Mr. Ball.

You saw him?

Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Mr. Ball.

What was he doing?

Mr. Frazier.

He just looked through the kitchen window. To see from there on the ground outside there. I say you don't have to be any height at all, you don't have to be too tall to be able to look in the kitchen window there.
I say, if you have the window open you can see in, if you have light on in there.

Mr. Ball.

When your mother mentioned, "Who is that," you looked up and saw Lee Oswald in the kitchen window?

Mr. Frazier.

I just saw him for a split second and when he saw I saw him, I guess he heard me say, "Well, it is time to go," and he walked down by the back door there.

Representative Ford.

When he would go with you on Monday, on any Monday, was this the same procedure for getting to, getting in contact with you?

Mr. Frazier.

You mean coming in there and looking through the window?

Representative Ford.

Yes.

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; it wasn't. I say, that is the first time he had ever done that. I say. most times I would usually call him, you know, I was already out in the car fixing to go out the driveway there, and, you know, around to pick him up if he hadn't come down but most times, once in a while I picked him up at the house and another time he was already coming down the sidewalk to the house when I was fixing to pick him up and I usually picked him up around the corner there.

Representative Ford.

Did this different method of him meeting you raise any questions in your mind?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; it didn't. I just thought maybe, you know, he just left a little bit earlier but when I looked up and saw that the clock was. I knew I was the one who was running a little bit late because, as I say, I was talking, sitting there eating breakfast and talking to the little nieces, it was later than I thought it was.

Mr. Ball.

When you went out the back door where was Oswald?

Mr. Frazier.

He was standing just a few feet there outside the back door there.

Mr. Ball.

He wasn't in the car?