Mr. Specter.

As to anything at all. What did you see when the second shot went off?

Mr. Worrell.

Well, I looked to see where he was aiming and after the second shot and I have seen the President slumping down in the seat, and--

Mr. Specter.

Did you see the President slump in his seat after the second shot?

Mr. Worrell.

Uh, huh. And about that--

Mr. Specter.

Did you look up and see the rifle between the first and the second shots?

Mr. Worrell.

Yes, sir. And saw the firing on the second and then before he could get a shot I was--I took in everything but especially the car, the President's car, and saw him slumping, and I looked up again and turned around and started running and saw it fire a third time, and then--

Mr. Specter.

When did you see it fire a third time, when you looked up, the time you just described?

Mr. Worrell.

When I was, I did it all in one motion, I looked up, turned around and ran, pivoted.

Mr. Specter.

What did you hear, if anything, after that?

Mr. Worrell.

Just a lot of commotion, everybody was screaming and saying "duck."

Mr. Specter.

After the third shot, did you hear a fourth shot?

Mr. Worrell.

Oh, yes. Just as I got to the corner of Exhibit 360, I heard the fourth shot.

Mr. Specter.

Well, did these four shots come close together or how would you describe the timing in general on those?

Mr. Worrell.

Succession.

Mr. Specter.

Were they very fast?

Mr. Worrell.

They were right in succession.

Mr. Specter.

Now going back to the position of the rifle which you testified that you saw, you say it was either on the fifth or sixth floor?

Mr. Worrell.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Is there any way you can tell us which floor it was on, or would the angle of your observation permit you to be sure it was the fifth or sixth floors?

Mr. Worrell.

I am not going to say I am positive, but that one there.

Mr. Specter.

All right, would you mark that one--

Mr. Worrell.

Because that right there, I feel, would have obstructed my vision but I said it was either on the fifth or sixth floor.

Mr. Specter.

Well, now, will you mark with a "Y" the window which you have just pointed to?
(At this point Chief Justice Warren departed the hearing room.)

Mr. Worrell.

A "Y?"

Mr. Specter.

A "Y."
(Witness marking.)

Mr. Specter.

You have marked the "Y" over two windows. Was it the window--which window was it there as best you can recollect, as between those two?

Mr. Worrell.

I didn't mean to bring it down that far but this one.

Mr. Specter.

Would you put an arrow then at the window that you have just indicated, was the one where the rifle was protruding from?
(Witness marking.)

Mr. Specter.

So, the sum of it is you are not sure whether it was the fifth or the sixth floor, but you believe it was on the floor where you have marked a "Y" which is the sixth floor and that was the line of vision as you looked straight up over your head?

Mr. Worrell.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Where did you run, which is what you have just described that you did next?

Mr. Worrell.

Well, a better view of it is here in 360. I ran down Houston Street alongside the building and then crossed over the street, I ran alongside the building and crossed over, and in 359, I was standing over here, and I saw this man come bustling out of this door.