Mr. Jackson.

Well, on Main, as we neared Houston Street everyone was more or less in a relaxed state in our car, because we were near the end of the route, I guess, nothing unusual happened on Main Street.
The final block on Main, before we turned on Houston I was in the process of unloading a camera and I was to toss it out of the car as we turned right on Houston Street to one of our reporters.

Mr. Specter.

Had that been set up by prearrangement?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes, sir. And that I did as we turned the corner, and when--it was in an interval and as I threw it out the wind blew it, caught it and blew it out into the street and our reporter chased it out into the street and the photographers in our car, one of the photographers, was a TV cameraman whom I do not recall his name, and he was joking about the film being thrown out and he was shooting my picture of throwing the film out.

Mr. Specter.

At this point could you tell us, to the best of your recollection, precisely who was with you in the car at that time?

Mr. Jackson.

Jim Underwood from KRLD-TV station, Tom Dillard, chief photographer for the Dallas Morning News, and me, and then two newsreel cameramen who I know by sight but I don't know their names.
One is with WFAA which is the Dallas Morning News station, and I believe the other was channel 11, I believe.

Mr. Specter.

Can you position those people in the automobile for us with respect to where each was sitting?
(At this point Representative Ford entered the hearing room.)

Mr. Jackson.

Tom Dillard and Jim Underwood were in the front seat with the driver.

Mr. Specter.

Can you identify who the driver was?

Mr. Jackson.

No, sir.

Mr. Specter.

But he was a sixth individual separate and apart from the five heretofore described?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes, sir. And in the back seat were the two I know by sight but I can't remember the names. And I was on the right side of the car.

Mr. Specter.

On the right side of which seat?

Mr. Jackson.

Back seat, sitting up on the back of a seat.

Mr. Specter.

What kind of a car was it, sir?

Mr. Jackson.

I believe it was a Chevrolet convertible.

Mr. Specter.

Top down?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Were you carrying one camera or more than one camera?

Mr. Jackson.

Two cameras.

Mr. Specter.

And was one camera loaded at the time you rounded the corner of Main and Houston?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes, sir; and one was empty.

Mr. Specter.

Was it from the camera which was empty that you had taken the roll of film which you have just described?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

All right. Will you now proceed to tell us what happened as you rounded the corner of Main and Houston, please?

Mr. Jackson.

Well, as our reporter chased the film out into the street, we all looked back at him and were laughing, and it was approximately that time that we heard the first shot, and we had already rounded the corner, of course, when we heard the first shot. We were approximately almost half a block on Houston Street.

Mr. Specter.

Will you identify for me on Commission Exhibit 347, precisely as possible, where your automobile was at the time you heard the first shot?

Mr. Jackson.

Approximately right here, I would say the midpoint of this building. Approximately where we heard the first report.

Mr. Specter.

Now, will you mark in a black "X" on 347 the spot where your car was at the time you heard the first shot?

Mr. Jackson.

Right here approximately. And as we heard the first shot, I believe it was Tom Dillard from Dallas News who made some remark as to that