Representative Ford.

Were you given the information from this inquiry, even though you didn't make it yourself?

Mr. Kellerman.

What kind of information, sir?

Representative Ford.

Well, about those people who are considered dangerous or a problem in any one of these four or five cities where the President was going on this trip.

Mr. Kellerman.

I will have to check this, but there was no record.

Representative Ford.

In other words--

Mr. Kellerman.

No information.

Representative Ford.

In other words, PRS never turned over to you any information about any dangerous individuals in any one of these communities on this trip.

Mr. Kellerman.

That's right.

Representative Ford.

Is this unusual?

Mr. Kellerman.

Yes. But let me reserve the right to recheck that question again; may I?

Representative Ford.

Absolutely. All we want in this case, as in any other, are whatever the facts are to the best of records that are available.

Mr. Kellerman.

All right.

Representative Ford.

In the report from the Secret Service it says, and I quote, "Because of the incidents on the occasion of the visit of Ambassador Stevenson to Dallas earlier in the fall, special attention was given to extremist groups known to be active in Dallas. Appendix A describes the action taken in Dallas in more detail." Were you familiar with that part of the Secret Service activity prior to your departure for Texas?

Mr. Kellerman.

I have knowledge of that; yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

How much knowledge?

Mr. Kellerman.

But not enough to be written up, that I recall, sir.

Representative Ford.

Well, could you describe for the Commission what knowledge you did have in this regard?

Mr. Kellerman.

The only knowledge I can describe to you, sir, is the fact that we were aware of what this Ambassador went through down there. However, we had no information that such an incident would happen to President Kennedy on his trip into that State.

Representative Ford.

But I gather from this report, which is the official report of the Treasury Department, that somebody knew of these previous incidents, and was thereby alerted to the possibility of--the potential of one, because the report says, "Special attention is given to extremist groups known to be in Dallas." Now, could you tell us what special attention was given?

Mr. Kellerman.

No. Outside of the fact that everybody was alerted to this previous incident.

Representative Ford.

PRS, Protective Research Section, didn't tell you, as the person in charge, of any individuals or of any groups that wanted special attention? I am using "special attention" as in the report.

Mr. Kellerman.

Right as of this minute, the only knowledge that I have of any incident that could happen was in San Antonio, when I believe we had information of some pickets. Now, those pickets showed up outside of--he made a speech at that space hospital. Well, anyway, in view of that, I cannot reach the name right now--these pickets were out at, let's say, the main gate to the grounds, and just stayed right there with their placards.

Representative Ford.

Also on the report it says, "In accordance with the usual practice, the local FBI office informed the local Secret Service office of any information which affected the President's visit,"

Mr. Kellerman.

They did. That is the normal practice.

Representative Ford.

That was the normal procedure?

Mr. Kellerman.

It is always the normal procedure; yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

Now, whom would they have informed in this case in Dallas?

Mr. Kellerman.

Their report would have come to Washington, and relayed to our Protective Research Section.

Representative Ford.

And the FBI in this instance gave you what information, if any, that you should relay back to the people--