Mr. Jenner.

Here, again, your statement is based on what?

Mr. Oliver.

On

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, may I amend my question by asking the source of your information?

Mr. Oliver.

Principally certainly research reports from Mr. Capell. I saw, of course, certain excerpts published in the newspapers.

Mr. Jenner.

Recently?

Mr. Oliver.

But I am relying principally on Mr. Capell's research.

Mr. Jenner.

You have reference, I assume, I don't know when it was published, Oswald's autobiography? Did you see that?

Mr. Oliver.

Not with that title on it. I am thinking of newspaper reports
that quoted not more than two or three paragraphs.

Mr. Jenner.

I see.

Mr. Oliver.

Containing excerpts from the diary.

Mr. Jenner.

But you saw no such newspaper reports of excerpts at or prior to the time you wrote and published this article, did you?

Mr. Oliver.

I believe not; no. I mentioned that as merely pertinent to the scope of your inquiry, as you could find.

Mr. Jenner.

Then you go on in your article and say, "In 1962 after he had been trained for 3 years in Russia, the Communist agent and his Communist wife were brought to the United States in open violation of American law by our Commu-nist-dominated State Department." Now, I take the statement "had been trained for 3 years in Russia," the sources thereof are the sources you have already mentioned ?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

In connection with the previous sentence. What is your source for the statement that he was a Communist?

Mr. Oliver.

A man who can

Mr. Jenner.

If you will forgive an interruption, Doctor.

Mr. Oliver.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

First, tell me the source, I have no objection to your elaborating after you have given the source.

Mr. Oliver.

For the statement that he was a Communist agent, I rely on what I regard as certain inference from, A, his training in this school; B, the circumstance he was a man who had been accorded most extraordinary privileges in Russia; C, that he had been permitted to marry and take with him the adopted daughter of a man in the Russian intelligence service.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, sir, are you now using adopted in the technical sense, that the uncle you have identified adopted her?

Mr. Oliver.

I am using it loosely because I for that matter do not know whether there is legal adoption in the Soviet.
• Mr. JENNER. I didn't want you to utter something that you perhaps did not intend.

Mr. Oliver.

No; I was merely reluctant to say "purported father" because that would have another implication. D, that he had been permitted to return to the United States by the Soviet with his wife; E, his activities in the United States after his return, all of which were quite obviously in the Communist interest. I believe that summarizes the principal points on which I based my deduction. It is, of course, true that I had no personal knowledge that he was a Soviet agent.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, were the sources of these points A through E, the news reports, Commission Exhibit 1015, the Congressional Record, newspaper clippings, and other secondary sources of that nature?

Mr. Oliver.

Together with, here also, reports from Mr. Capell.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have with you copies of any of the reports of Mr. Capell that you considered ?

Mr. Oliver.

No; I do not.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have with you the sources that you considered in connection with making of the statement we have now immediately quoted?

Mr. Oliver.

I beg your pardon, I did not hear your last words.
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