Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever have any conversation with Ruby where told you him, "I don't do such a crazy thing"?

Mr. Paul.

Do I remember the conversation ?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes?

Mr. Paul.

I never told him that.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you recall on Sunday morning having made any statement to anybody concerning a conversation which you had had with Ruby in which Ruby had made some threats about Oswald and talked about a gun and you had told him not to be crazy and not to do such a thing, and so forth ? .

Mr. Paul.

Now, the man never asked me about it--how could I have told him about it?

Mr. Hubert.

Well, as I understand your answer, you never did make such a statement?

Mr. Paul.

That's fight.

Mr. Hubert.

And as I further understand your answer, he never to you any such thing at all ?

Mr. Paul.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

The records show that you spoke to him again at 11:18 p.m., that's at night?

Mr. Paul.

That's the time that's what I told you. That's the last time I talked to him.

Mr. Hubert.

That shows that there were two phone calls?

Mr. Paul.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

One at 10:44?

Mr. Paul.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

That one lasted about 9 minutes ?

Mr. Paul.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

And the second one at 11:18, or about a half hour afterwards, roughly?

Mr. Paul.

Yeah.

Mr. Hubert.

And that one lasted 1 minute?

Mr. Paul.

That's right.I told him I was sick and I was going to bed and not to call me.

Mr. Hubert.

And he called you at your house a little later, didn't he?

Mr. Paul.

Both times at the house. That's the last two calls.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, he called you twice at the Bull Pen ?

Mr. Paul.

Yeah; the second time he called, they told him I went home.

Mr. Hubert.

And then he called you at your house?

Mr. Hubert.

And he spoke to you 3 minutes, and that's when you told him you were sick ?

Mr. Paul.

The last time---when you said the minute--that's when I told him I was sick.

Mr. Hubert.

At 11:36?

Mr. Paul.

I guess so--I guess that was the last time I didn't watch the clock. Mr. HUBERT. Did he call you after that?

Mr. Paul.

No, Sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How many calls did you get at home from him ?

Mr. Paul.

Two.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, the records seem to indicate three----one at 11:19 which lasted 3 minutes, and another one 15 minutes later, at 11:36, which was for 2 minutes. The records also show that at 11:18 he called you for I minute. He called you for I minute at the Bull Pen and that's when they probably told him you had gone home, so he immediately placed a call I minute later, you see, and spoke to you at your home for 3 minutes, and then 15 minutes later he called you again, and you spoke to him for 2 minutes, and then at 11:47 he called again and spoke to you for I minute. Do you remember the third call ?

Mr. Paul.

If he called, I must have been asleep, because I don't know that he called the third time.