(Testimony of Ralph Paul)
Mr. Hubert.
Did you see Tammi True during that weekend of November 22, 23, and 24?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir; the first time I saw Tammi was the 24th and it was Sunday.
Mr. Hubert.
You saw Tammi, Sunday ?
Mr. Paul.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
But you did not speak to her or see her prior to that time for 4 weeks ?
Mr. Paul.
No; the 24th was Sunday.
Mr. Hubert.
Where did you see her and under what circumstances?
Mr. Paul.
On Sunday?
Mr. Hubert.
Yes.
Mr. Paul.
She came over to. the place.
Mr. Hubert.
That's the Bull Pen?
Mr. Paul.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
That was after Ruby had shot Oswald ?
Mr. Paul.
Yes. She was the first one to call me and tell me.
Mr. Hubert.
You were at the Bull Pen all day Friday except when you went home?
Mr. Paul.
When I went home in the afternoon.
Mr. Hubert.
And on Saturday too?
Mr. Paul.
When I went home in the afternoon and came back at 5 and stayed until 10.
Mr. Hubert.
That was on Saturday?
Mr. Paul.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, I want to get into the calls from Ruby on Saturday night--there were quite a number of them, as I recall it. Do you remember when the first one was and where did you get it?
Mr. Paul.
The first call was at the Bull Pen.
Mr. Hubert.
And he called you ?
Mr. Paul.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
And where was he, did he say ?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Could you gather from the nature of the conversation, from what he said, as to where he might have been ?
Mr. Paul.
No---I think he said--the only thing I think he said was that he went to synagogue, and whether he said it then or he said it later, I don't recall.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he say anything to you about doing something to Oswald
and getting a gun or anything like that?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir; no sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he mention anything about a gun at all to you on any of those phone calls?
Mr. Paul.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know a person by the name of Wanda Helmick or Elwick ?
Mr. Paul.
Maybe I do, but I can't recall the name.
Mr. Hubert.
Have you ever told anybody that Ruby told you that he was going to get a gun and shoot Oswald?
Mr. Paul.
How could I tell anybody if he didn't tell me?
Mr. Hubert.
I'm not asking you that--I'm asking you if he did tell you?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
And you never repeated that to anybody ?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
You never said that to anyone?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Did Ruby at anytime indicate that he was going to take some
action or that some action should be taken by someone with regard to Oswald?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you recall talking to Ruby about a gun ?
Mr. Paul.
I never even talked to Ruby about Oswald.
Mr. Hubert.
You don't know who Wanda Helmick is?
Mr. Paul.
Maybe I do, but I don't recall who she is.
Mr. Hubert.
But the name doesn't mean anything to you ?
Mr. Paul.
No.
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