Mr. Hubert.

Until what time ?

Mr. Paul.

Until 12 o'clock. I got out of there about 12:30.

Mr. Hubert.

You got out of there, you say, about 12:30?

Mr. Paul.

About 12:30---yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And went home?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, the records indicate that there was a call to you by Jack Ruby about 1:15 p.m. on Friday, November 22. Do you remember anything about that?

Mr. Paul.

At I p.m. in the afternoon ?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes---- l:15.

Mr. Paul.

Yes; that's when he told me about the President being shot.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't know it prior to that time?

Mr. Paul.

Well, I listened on the radio because everybody in the place was just standing there and I just put the radio on--they called me and told me that the President was shot, and just a little later, he called me too. He says----oh--I told you that before. It was a terrible thing.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you that he had gone to Parkland Hospital?

Mr. Paul.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention to you that he had been at the Dallas Morning News that day, the day the President was shot?

Mr. Paul.

I don't really recall that he told me that.

Mr. Hubert.

I think he called you again, according to the records, about 43 on Friday afternoon?

Mr. Paul.

At home.

Mr. Hubert.

You had left?

Mr. Paul.

I had left the place yes.

Mr. Hubert.

The Bull Pen?

Mr. Paul.

Yes; and I told him I was watching television

Mr. Hubert.

You told him that?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention to you about closing the club then?

Mr. Paul.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he ask whether he should do it---did he ask you whether he should do it or did he tell you he was going to?

Mr. Paul.

No; he didn't tell me. He said, "I'm going to close down for 3 days, what are you going to do?" I said, "I've got to keep open, I've got a restaurant." I told you that before.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention calling Gruber Marty

Mr. Paul.

He's dead.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention having called him at that time---he was dead at that time?

Mr. Paul.

Yes--Marty Goble or Grable or something like that. He died in Chicago the night of the fight of the first--this and the champion fight--Marty Grable.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, this is Gimble or Gruble?

Mr. Paul.

Oh--Marty Gruble I don't know.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, did he mention Marty Gruble or any person named Gruble?

Mr. Paul.

No; I wouldn't know who he is if he did.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, that may be so, but what I want to know is whether he mentioned that name to you?

Mr. Paul.

No; I don't recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Ruby mention to you on that Friday night or on that Friday afternoon in any of those calls that he was going to the synagogue that night?

Mr. Paul.

I don't recall whether it was that evening or late at night that he told me that he went the synagogue.

Mr. Hubert.

He didn't invite you to go with

Mr. Paul.

I don't go to the synagogue.

Mr. Hubert.

I know, but did he invite you , to go with him ?

Mr. Paul.

No; he knows I'll be working.

Mr. Hubert.

He called you about 8:40 that evening, didn't he?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.