Mr. Hubert.

Nor do you remember where you saw him?

Mrs. Carlin.

No--I saw so many different faces. I never paid any attention to them.

Mr. Hubert.

Let's put it this way--would it be most likely if you saw such a man,-would it have been in the club or could it have been some place else?

Mrs. Carlin.

Well, most likely it would have been there at the club or where I went to eat around the club, because that's about the only places I've been--walking from the club to where I eat, the drugstore, and walking back.

Mr. Hubert.

This man that you saw that you think resembles the pictures of Oswald, or maybe did, you would have seen either at the club or at this drugstore near the club ?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

At the drugstore where you had supper?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know a Secret Service agent by the name of Roger Warner?

Mrs. Carlin.

I don't remember him. I've talked to so many.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, do you remember telling any Secret Service agent that you had seen Oswald at the Carousel Club ?

Mrs. Carlin.

No; I remember telling them the same thing I told you. That's all I've ever said, that it could have been but I'm not going to say for sure.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, it was not a positive identification?

Mrs. Carlin.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

And if it's so reported, it's simply a misstatement in the report?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes; I would say so because the only thing I have said is that it could possibly be, but I'm not going to say for sure, but the man resembled Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever tell any Secret Service agent or any Government official at all that you thought that Oswald and Ruby were connected in some way?

Mrs. Carlin.

No; I can never remember that.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember speaking to anyone about that--the possibilities of their being connected?

Mrs. Carlin.

Oh, yes; I spoke to several people at the club--the Secret Service and the FBI--so many of them.

Mr. Hubert.

No; I'm talking about the possibility of a connection between Ruby and Oswald?

Mrs. Carlin.

No; I don't remember ever saying anything like that. I've said
it before but it was only hearsay or what I believed myself.

Mr. Hubert.

What do you believe yourself?

Mrs. Carlin.

Myself?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mrs. Carlin.

Well, maybe I shouldn't say. I don't think I really should because it's just one person's opinion.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, do you have anything to base it upon?

Mrs. Carlin.

No; it's just my own opinion--nothing that I saw, you know, for myself. It's Just my own opinion by the way people talk and by him, Jack Ruby, himself.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, what was that about Jack Ruby himself that would support a possible connection between him and Oswald?

Mrs. Carlin.

Just the way he was--the things I've read in the newspapers and things about him I saw for myself; people he would talk to; always having people in his office; and things like that.

Mr. Hubert.

That leads you to form that conclusion?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes; for myself.

Mr. Hubert.

But what is the conclusion you form from that?

Mrs. Carlin.

Well, that he had connections with Lee Harvey Oswald. This is my own opinion. There's nothing to base it on, except my own opinion.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you mean that because you saw these people going into the office and so forth ?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes, and because of the things the newspapers have said, and the neighbors--the way that they talk about him and the things that they