(Testimony of Lawrence V. Meyers)
Mr. Griffin.
I don't want to do that.
Mr. Meyers.
I am putting words in my own mouth actually. He had many times intimated to me or indicated to me that it was a damn shame, to use his words, that his competitors were such money hungry Jews, and, of course, we could get into quite a discussion about technicalities in this and feelings in this matter, and I of course--- you see, my background and Jack's is so completely different. It is so difficult for me to sometimes see his way of thinking. Do you follow what I am trying to say ?
Some things that Jack said I would have sympathized with him. Other things that he said I might have sympathized with him but certainly not like the way he said it. Do I make myself clear? There were just, in other words, just as many money hungry Christians as there are Jews.
Mr. Griffin.
Is this opinion that you are giving us, that Jack was upset about the Weinsteins being open, in part because they were Jewish, is this an opinion which you had at the time that you talked with Jack that night or is that onethat you formed later on after reading--
Mr. Meyers.
No, no; that is an opinion I had that night when I first thought that he was talking about the Weinsteins.
And the fact that he led me to believe I will put it this way--that he was talking about them in the category of money hungry Jews is because he was so militantly against anybody bum-rapping Jews, that is a way of saying it. I don't know how to word it. I know exactly what I want to say but I don't know how to use the words. He thought it was a reflection on the Jews that these people would do such a thing. Let me put it that way.
Mr. Griffin.
Did he say anything specifically that would lead you to believe that just on the basis of that conversation, or was this something that you were concluding on the basis of having known him.
Mr. Meyers.
It was a conclusion from having known him because he did not mention the Weinsteins by name Saturday night when he talked to me. All he said, and he repeated this a number of times, were, "those poor people, those poor people, I have got to do something" or, "I should do something about this." I don't know exactly which words he used.
This he said a few times. Now, my assumption through my conversations with him and through knowing him is that he was talking about these Weinsteins.
I have since begun to believe that he was not talking about the Weinsteins. He was talking about the Kennedy family. At least this is my conclusion; and I am not a psychiatrist or an attorney.
Mr. Griffin.
Well, again, is that conclusion based on anything he said that night or is it based simply on the fact that later he shot Lee Oswald.
Mr. Meyers.
You mean my conclusion?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Meyers.
I would assume it is based on the fact that Sunday morning he shot Lee Oswald.
Now, he did a number of times mention, "those poor people, those poor people. I have got to do something about it, or I should do something about it." And you see, you must understand, Mr. Griffin, that the assassination, of course, had occurred. The murder of Oswald, particularly by Jack Ruby, was--well I can only say the furthest thing from my mind. I just had no belief or concept---anymore than Miss Taylor might pick that thing up and decide to hit me on the ead with it right now. I would be just as shocked. As a matter of fact, when I found out he had done it, it was the most shocking thing.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, you indicated that before closing the conversation, Ruby said to you that he had to go downtown, or that he had some business downtown.
Mr. Meyers.
You mean Saturday night?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Meyers.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
He did not say that?
Mr. Meyers.
No. The last thing he said--I will repeat myself now, and this I know is a fact. He was more incoherent than he had ever been when I talked to him that night, and he asked me to meet him for some coffee or a drink, I
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