Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir; I misunderstood you.

Mr. Hubert.

What you could gather, Ruby was in favor of what the sign advocated ?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes; that, and the ad in the paper and what had happened the day before.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he agree with the ad in the paper ?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Well now, what had he told you about going to the press to talk to them?

Mr. Johnson.

Say again?

Mr. Hubert.

What had he told you about going to the paper and talking to them about the ad?

Mr. Johnson.

While he was standing there talking to us over my right shoulder, he told me that, or told us, all of us, that he had been down there and had talked to them, to the editorial staff and everything else.

Mr. Hubert.

What about?

Mr. Johnson.

About getting rid of the gang in Washington.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he say to you that he had gone down there to remonstrate with the editor for taking such an ad?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir; he talked about it, and we didn't listen.

Mr. Hubert.

Why would he be fussing, as it were, with the newspaper for taking the ad, if he agreed with it?

Mr. Johnson.

I don't have any idea. I don't know.

Mr. Hubert.

But your impression was that he had, that he said that he had gone down to find out why the newspaper had taken such an ad?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

But also your impression was, he agreed with it?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it your impression also that he agreed with the people who wanted to impeach Earl Warren?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he seem to be incensed at the criticism of President Kennedy, or to the contrary?

Mr. Johnson.

Say again?

Mr. Hubert.

Did he appear to be angry of this criticism of President Kennedy, or to the contrary?

Mr. Johnson.

I very frankly didn't hear him say too much about Kennedy one way or the other, other than he indicated that he felt that it was a malpractice of, what shall we say

Mr. Hubert.

News ethics, or something of that SOrt?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes; and the police protection here, that he should have been assassinated here.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, he seemed to be ashamed of the fact that the President had been shot here?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Yet your impression was that he agreed with the criticism of the President?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he seem to connect the, or mention anything about the possi-

bility that the killing of the President might reflect on the Jewish community ?

Mr. Johnson.

To us or to me that afternoon; no, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he make any comment to the general effect that he was aware about how the assassination of President Kennedy might affect business in Dallas, and more particularly his own business ?

Mr. Johnson.

That I can remember; no, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember whether Tom Apple left at anytime so he might not have heard all this conversation ?

Mr. Johnson.

Negative. I don't remember.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you were interviewed at one time by FBI Agent Paul L. Scott on December 6, 1963. Do yon remember that?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.