Mr. Griffin.

Was that a----

Mr. Rubenstein.

Paul Fisher is a very dear friend of mine, salesman.

Mr. Griffin.

Chicago Cardboard Co.?

Mr. Rubenstein.

That is the punchboard outfit I told you about, Chicago Cardboard was a punchboard outfit and Paul Fisher, I covered Chicago territory for him.

Mr. Griffin.

When you worked for the punchboard company where did you travel?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Wisconsin.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the Parliament Sales Corp., do you remember working for them?

Mr. Rubenstein.

I sold television sets for them only in Chicago.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the Enterprise Contract Consultants, do you remember working for them?

Mr. Rubenstein.

I don't even know who they are.

Mr. Griffin.

They were located on Milwaukee Avenue in Chicago.

Mr. Rubenstein.

That is the same thing, must be.

Mr. Griffin.

Same thing?

Mr. Rubenstein.

I think it was the same outfit.

Mr. Griffin.

Just changed the name?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Could be. You never can tell about those outfits. Oh, they had to change their name, I believe, because they were using the word "Paramount."

Mr. Griffin.

Parliament.

Mr. Rubenstein.

And they changed it to Parliament to make it sound like Paramount because Paramount wouldn't let them use their name. What is this Enterprise deal?

Mr. Griffin.

I don't know, that is why I am asking you.

Mr. Rubenstein.

I don't recall, either. How long did I work there?

Mr. Griffin.

About 6 months.

Mr. Rubenstein.

What did they make?

Mr. Griffin.

That is what I am asking.

Mr. Rubenstein.

Were they located on Milwaukee Avenue?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Rubenstein.

Then it must be the same outfit.

Mr. Griffin.

Who were the people who ran it?

Mr. Rubenstein.

One fellow was a nice guy and I still see him occasionally in Chicago, Oscar Fishbein, he is president of the firm, I believe, and I still believe he is still in business.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the G.T. & I.T. Drake Co.?

Mr. Rubenstein.

That was in 1950.

Mr. Griffin.

1952.

Mr. Rubenstein.

1952. I bought a suburban carryall from a friend of mine by the name of Harry King.

Mr. Griffin.

Carryall or carryout?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Carryall. It is called a suburban carryall. It is a car that is designed to carry all, with glass all around it, and it looked like a small truck where the doors opened up in back like this so you could load and unload easily. I saw an ad in the paper, this Drake outfit, the restaurant outfit, $100 a week, and $100 a week in 1952, gentlemen, is a lot of money.
So, here is how it worked. I delivered, unloaded, and loaded food items for, they paid me $60 a week and $40 for the car expense that was $100 a week. It was a hard job but I took it because it paid well. That was it.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember working for Miracle Enterprises?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Miracle?

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember them?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Never heard of them.

Mr. Griffin.

Would it have been another name for Parliament Sales?

Mr. Rubenstein.

It could have been. What address?