Mr. Hubert.

Who was he demonstrating it to?

Mr. Watherwax.

Well, to our proofreader who is a woman. He got her to try it. I think it was a reducing thing or an exercise thing.

Mr. Hubert.

It's sort of a thing that you put on the floor and stand on and twist around on?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it a rather humorous performance?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes; everybody was laughing. You would twist, you would almost have to.

Mr. Hubert.

You said it was one of the female proofreaders who got on it, and was he laughing and joking about it as well?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And then he went off, and have you seen him since?

Mr. Watherwax.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have any communication with him during the rest of the 23d or the 24th ?

Mr. Watherwax.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you mentioned that Roy Pryor was there that night too?

Mr. Watherwax.

Roy Pryor; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Ruby ever mention to you in the course of the years that you knew him--any friends that he had in the underworld--mobster group?

Mr. Watherwax.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Was he sort of a name dropper?
Mr.WATHERWAX. Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention people that he thought were important that he had met?

Mr. Watherwax.

I never noticed it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he ever say anything to you to indicate what his relationship with the police was?

Mr. Watherwax.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know from your own knowledge what his relationship with the police was ?

Mr. Watherwax.

No; I don't--no. The only time that I ever had anything like tint, was sitting in my cab in front of the University Club, waiting for a passenger .that was upstairs and a couple of conventioners came along and offered me a drink and asked me where all the action was and everything, and it was already closing hours. It was after closing hours and to get rid of them I sent them down to the Carousel. I knew that he was open until 3 o'clock in the morning or 2 o'clock, and I didn't know, but they were vice squad men, so Ruby got a big laugh out of it--here he says---"I ask you for customers here and you're sending me down vice squad men."

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, these people who appeared to be conventioners and drunks were in fact vice squad men and masquerading as such?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't drive them there but you just told them about it?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Later you say Ruby laughed and Joked with you about it?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

He wasn't angry about it?

Mr. Watherwax.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

He apparently got into no trouble as a result of it?

Mr. Watherwax.

I think they sort of considered him as a joke, I guess, more than anything else. I think everybody sort of--they didn't pay him much attention.

Mr. Hubert.

Why?

Mr. Watherwax.

Well, evidently he didn't seem to have very much intelligence. He was just a pusher.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that your impression of him ?

Mr. Watherwax.

I Wouldn't say--he wasn't educated.

Mr. Hubert.

Would you say that the relationship between you and Ruby was friendly?

Mr. Watherwax.

Oh, yes.