Mr. Hubert.

Is that your analysis of it or did he say anything that night to indicate that he was concerned about his business?

Mr. Watherwax.

We discussed it--that. You see; I drive a cab part time. That's one reason why he's sort of cultivated my friendship because he was always after me to bring him customers, and we discussed how it would hurt Dallas for conventions more than anything else, because that was his main source of income and also for cabdrivers.

Mr. Hubert.

You drove a cab every day?

Mr. Watherwax.

Oh, no; maybe for a weekend or maybe 2 or 3 days a month.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you drive a cab on the same day you would go to work?

Mr. Watherwax.

No; it was always on my off days.

Mr. Hubert.

And it was at night?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes; night.

Mr. Hubert.

And did you sometimes bring people to his club?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes; but never by my own volition.

Mr. Hubert.

They asked you to do so?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, you didn't solicit for the club?

Mr. Watherwax.

Oh, no; no.

Mr. Hubert.

When you did bring somebody there, did he compensate you in any way?

Mr. Watherwax.

He offered to; if I would come upstairs, he would give me a half a dollar a person, but it wasn't worthwhile.

Mr. Hubert.

You never did collect any half dollars on that, did you?

Mr. Watherwax.

Mr. Hubert.

So that I gather from what you said that both of you discussed the possibilities that your cab business, such as it was, might be hurt if the tourists stayed away from Dallas and that his club business would be hurt?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And he very definitely discussed that aspect of it with you?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did that seem to be of concern to him?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes; he was. worried about it. Like I said, primarily he was a businessman. I have often thought that--they said that he mingled with police, he was a glad-hander but he was his own public-relations man and that was all part of the business with him.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you ever been to his club on a social basis?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes; I took my wife up there once.

Mr. Hubert.

Other than that?

Mr. Watherwax.

That was the only time once.

Mr. Hubert.

You say you've known him about 7 or 8 years?

Mr. Watherwax.

No; Just several years, I would say--maybe longer than that 4 or 5 years.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know him prior to the time he organized and opened the Sovereign Club?

Mr. Watherwax.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know him when he owned the Vegas Club alone?

Mr. Watherwax.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

It was only when he opened the Carousel?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

These ads that he ran were for both clubs or just one?

Mr. Watherwax.

He ran two separate ads. Usually the Carousel was the main ad. The Vegas Club was just a little one a continuous ad. I think his main interest was the Carousel.

Mr. Hubert.

When you say you went to his club, you mean the Carousel?

Mr. Watherwax.

Yes; the Carousel.

Mr. Hubert.

You've never been to the Vegas?

Mr. Watherwax.

Mr. Hubert.

When he left at appproximately 4:30 or shortly thereafter, did he make any kind of parting comment of significance?

Mr. Watherwax.

No; he didn't. After he talked to me he was demonstrating a twistboard that he had brought up there.