Mr. Mccurdy.

"Knight" Moore, who is now at WXYZ at Detroit, Mich., and also a gentleman named Pappas-that I mentioned--I can't remember what his first name was, but anyway he's a newsman with WNEW in New York City, but Jack's conversation and my conversation took place by ourselves in the control room. Now, he was in the control room at the time. There is another discrepancy down-here, and it says I had met Ruby one time before.

Mr. Hubert.

That's in the fourth paragraph.

Mr. Mccurdy.

Actually, I had been with him twice. ! had been to his club twice, rather than just once it's once right here, and in the same paragraph it says, "So far as I know Ruby is not a personal friend of anyone at the station." This is not true. He was a friend of Russ Moore. Now, Russ didn't really appreciate his friendship, but he was a friend of Russ and this clarifies the last paragraph where it says, "I have no idea how Ruby obtained the telephone number at the station." He knew several of the diskjockeys, one who had left the radio station earlier named Chuck Dunnaway--Charles Dunnaway who is now in Beaumont. He knew him, so I could easily see how he got the telephone number of the unlisted phone number-either through Chuck or Russ, or possibly one of our newsmen, that he possibly knew.

Mr. Hubert.

Is this an incorrect report or is it that you did tell this to the FBI people and now your memory is clearer on it?

Mr. Mccurdy.

I don't .exactly know. I can't remember telling Mr. Mabray anything. Of course, i,t was such an informal conversation we had anyway, that these are actually I'm sure not earth shattering discrepancies, but Mr. Mabray was handwriting most of the stuff and some of the questions--I'm sure he wrote down answers that were understood rather than--since he wasn't there, he couldn't understand the setup of the control room. Now, we are in a new control room now over across the street, but at this particular time I suppose maybe my description of the control room--the difference between the control room and the newsroom possibly didn't make it clear in Mr. Mabray's mind as to the difference.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, in any case, with the exceptions that you have noted, the

document which has been identified Exhibit No. I is substantially correct?

Mr. Mccurdy.

Correct; entirely correct.

Mr. Hubert.

Apparently you talked to Ruby about 5 minutes after he arrived

with the sandwiches; is that correct?

Mr. Mccurdy.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You were alone with him, I believe, at that time, were you not?

Mr. Mccurdy.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the nature of the conversation?

Mr. Mccurdy.

Well, now first of all--Jack and I met in the newsroom. I went back with him to the newsroom and we had the sandwiches and everything and I grabbed a sandwich and started back to the control room and Jack walked part of the way back with me and he stopped in the hall.
Now, as far as our conversation was concerned---it was just--Jack mentioned how terrible it was about President Kennedy being assassinated and he said he felt like it was a good thing that we had changed our station format, which. we had done. We had changed our news format and weren't playing any rock and roll at the station, but were playing album music, soft listening music, and I don't know whether I mentioned it or not--I can't remember whether I mentioned it or not but he looked rather pale to me as he was talking to me and he kept looking at the floor. Well, I went on back to the control room and Jack went back to the newsroom and talked to the newsman, and then I would say 5 or 6 minutes later came back to the control room where I was by myself and he stood there and talked to me and basically told me what was on your paper right there. He told me once again--he rementioned how sorry he was that all this had happened and he gave me a little card that I think I still have, an advertisement for his club.

Mr. Hubert.

The Carousel Club?

Mr. Mccurdy.

Yes; the Carousel Club, and we just sat around and talked in general and he mentioned that he was going to close his club down for the week-end--I can't remember his exact words--I think it was more correct on this because it was closer to the ,time he said it and I gave it to the FBI man. He