Mr. Hubert.

Now, when you spoke to Captain Fritz about it the other day, that was the first time you had talked to Captain Fritz about that aspect; is that correct ?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he seem to be surprised ?

Mr. Hodge.

No. He was on the.telephone.

Mr. Hubert.

But he said he would try to find out who those people were?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And then you've had a call from Baker and who identified himself as having escorted you to the fourth floor and Baker said he would try to find out who the other two men were and let you know, but he has not done so up until now; is that right?

Mr. Hodge.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

What was it that suggested to you that you ought to have the names of those men ?

Mr. Hodge.

Well, it would verify that he did ride the elevator down with us and that the conversation did take place.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, it was after you got the letter from Mr. Rankin asking you to appear here today that it occurred to you that you ought to have the names of those men so that you could tell me those names if I asked you about it; is that correct?

Mr. Hodge.

That's correct.

Mr. Hubert.

And that's when you called Captain Fritz just yesterday, Thursday, June the 25th ?

Mr. Hodge.

That's right and he told me, he said, "I'll tell you, I've got a bunch that works days and nights and I'll have to question all of them, but I'll find out which one it was."

Mr. Hubert.

Do you think you could recognize those men if you saw them?

Mr. Hodge.

You know, I thought it was Potts and Baker, but they say Potts works burglary and theft, but they could have had some of the burglary and theft men over there.

Mr. Hubert.

Baker is the one that took you up on the fourth floor?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes; that's what he verified today.

Mr. Hubert.

But Baker was not one of the men who took you downstairs ?

Mr. Hodge.

I wouldn't swear to it---of course, they may not want to come forth and tell it, you see, but there's nothing to hide, and if it will help, I think that they should do it.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you expect to hear from Captain Fritz still ?

Mr. Hodge.

I'm going to call him back and see what he's found out, but they agreed to call me back.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he know what time you were going to appear here today?

Mr. Hodge.

I told him today at 2:30--told Baker.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, sir. I think that's all, and I thank you very much.

Mr. Hodge.

I only hope this will. be of some help to You. If you're down that way on Ervay Street, stop by my gunshop.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I'll tell you, I have depositions all tonight and tomorrow in the day and it's very unlikely I'll be able to do it.

Mr. Hodge.

I have a lot of antique guns and modern guns too, although you may not be interested in .them.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I don't know much about guns. Frankly, I would like to say I would accept your invitation, but I know I am going to be busy tonight and tomorrow with' these depositions.

Mr. Hodge.

I'm not throwing myself no bouquets, but I have always cooperated with the FBI, and as I say, they fingerprinted me, they took my life history and everything and they turned their file over to me. I had several agents I was good friends to in the past, and you can find out by talking to two or three, and of course, they move them about, but you can find out that there were some criminals, you know, .that would be in that bar, and I opened up this gunshop and it's just around the corner from the bus station and .these drifters come in and going through, and they will verify what I told you.
And, I'll tell you--some people call you a stool pigeon and it looks to me like