Mr. Hubert.

kick or a charge out of being close to the police and the news development of this historic event?

Mr. Duncan.

Oh, I think so. I think he was to a certain degree. Of course, we run into this sort of thing all the time. Of course, the event was much more important, but I would not say that he seemed any more excited about having an "in" or being closer to it than the average person we run into at a shooting or a major accident, who sidles up to you and tries to become involved.

Mr. Hubert.

How did he explain giving you the sandwiches?

Mr. Duncan.

As I remember there was no definite explanation. It was simply that "I figured you guys would be hungry and I brought these up to you," with this type of an explanation, if it is one.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he indicate to you that the sandwiches had originally been intended for the police but that he found that they couldn't use them and he therefore brought them to you?

Mr. Duncan.

No; from the very beginning--from the telephone calls and afterward he indicated to me that they were originally intended for us, and the reason he had them at the police station was the fact that he had been unable to get in.

Mr. Hubert.

To get into where?

Mr. Duncan.

To get into our place and then had gone over to look for one of their newsmen. His indication, and I don't know about his whereabouts before that, or he didn't mention them, but his indication was he came to our station first.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you notice whether he had an overcoat on?

Mr. Duncan.

I believe he was carrying an overcoat.

Mr. Hubert.

Could you tell us what color it was?

Mr. Duncan.

It seems to me that it was a dark gray or light brown--a muted dark tone.

Mr. Hubert.

Is there anything else you wish to add?

Mr. Duncan.

I don't believe so.

Mr. Hubert.

I don't think there has been any conversation between us off the record--that has not been brought out on the record?

Mr. Duncan.

I don't believe so. It seems to me the only thing we talked about were these telephone calls and that's in.

Mr. Hubert.

And that's in the record?

Mr. Duncan.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

I think we did talk off the record by telephone, but that has been developed fully and is now on the record.

Mr. Duncan.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, sir, I believe that is all and I thank you very much for coming.

Mr. Duncan.

Glad to help you out.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, thank you.

Garnett Claud Hallmark
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Testimony of Garnett Claud Hallmark

The testimony of Garnett Claud Hallmark was taken at 10:35 a.m. on June 27, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Byran and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Hubert.

This is the deposition of Mr. Garnett Claud Hallmark.
Mr. Hallmark, my name is Leon D. Hubert. I am a member of the advisory staff of the general counsel on the President's Commission. Under the provisions of Executive Order 11130 dated November 29, 1963, and the joint resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules of procedure adopted by the President's Commission in conformance with the Executive order and the joint resolution, I have. been authorized to take this sworn deposition from you. I state to you