Mr. Duncan.

This--I am not sure of. This I would have to find out from the station engineering staff. I am certain though that long after others are gone, the news covering the assassination will be kept and that they are available now.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know anything about a sort of an instrument called an Alpawna Box, the word being spelled A-l-p-a-w-n-a?

Mr. Duncan.

No; I have never heard of it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Ruby in 'the course of any conversation with you on the telephone or otherwise mention the famous Weissman ad, are you familiar with the Weissman ad?

Mr. Duncan.

Yes; I am. I do not remember. I don't believe he did because I probably would have remembered after Ruby's further involvement, but I do not believe he did.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he indicate anything to you which would suggest that he was concerned that public opinion might place the blame for the assassination upon the people of the Jewish faith?

Mr. Duncan.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he talk in any way about the fact that he was a Jew or of the question of Jews or any aspect of that kind?

Mr. Duncan.

No, not at all. As a matter of fact, I am certain he didn't because I remember being surprised, well, not surprised, but feeling it was a new piece of information when I learned later he was Jewish. The term "Ruby," and I did not connect the thing with any physical characteristic at all.

Mr. Hubert.

Are you familiar with a pamphlet called "Heroism"?

Mr. Duncan.

Only in a hearsay sense.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Ruby make any comments about that pamphlet that you now identify the way you have, on the night in question?

Mr. Duncan.

Not to me.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he do so to anyone else--do you know?

Mr. Duncan.

I understand from talking to Russ Knight that he did, as I mentioned, later when they were chatting in the hall at the time of Ruby's departure, Russ told me that Ruby gave him a copy of a Life Line speech or pamphlet eatitled "Heroism" and asked him to read it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see that?

Mr. Duncan.

No, I did not. I didn't see the pamphlet or the exchange or did not actually know anything about it until talking with Russ some time after.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you ever seen or spoken to Ruby after he left that night?

Mr. Duncan.

No; well, I saw him during the coverage when I was at the police department covering the assassination--that's all.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he ask for any kind of a pass, a press pass from you?

Mr. Duncan.

No; he did not. He didn't ask for anything.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he have any press pass from KLIF, to your knowledge?

Mr. Duncan.

No; he didn't--not at all.

Mr. Hubert.

You would know if he did have?

Mr. Duncan.

Probably--I should think so. Press passes were short at that time, and at that time the only press passes available to my knowledge were the press passes that were connected with the Kennedy visit and not the later Dallas police press passes that were issued after the assassination.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your impression of Ruby's general attitude that night?

Mr. Duncan.

Well, repeating my trial testimony--this was the first time I had met him, so I had no real relative gage, but he did not seem out of character. He seemed--he was excited in the sense that everyone was exerted. He seemed to me to be a highstrung individual, a quick sort of individual, but he did not seem overly excited and did not seem out of character.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he seem to be grieving?

Mr. Duncan.

No, no; he was not grieving. If anything--if anything, he was--well, I use the word "happy" guardedly, but he was if anything happy that evidence was piling up against Oswald and that he had been charged, and the mounting of a case against him.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you get the impression that he himself was sort of getting a