Mr. Hubert.

scoop, and what happened next? Did he leave you, you leave him, or what happened?

Mr. Bellocchio.

It was almost as if he I spoke to Tom and said a few more words to Tom, and Ruby was gone--never said "Goodbye" or "I'll be seeing you".

Mr. Hubert.

You don't recollect his leaving?

Mr. Bellocchio.

I don't recollect his leaving.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't know whether he left the bar at that time?

Mr. Bellocchio.

No: I don't.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not see him leave the bar?

Mr. Bellocchio.

I did not see him leave the bar.

Mr. Hubert.

How long after that did you stay?

Mr. Bellocchio.

Perhaps 45 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see him during those 45 minutes?

Mr. Bellocchio.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

So, he may have been there or he may not have?

Mr. Bellocchio.

He may have been there.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you seen him since?

Mr. Bellocchio.

On television.

Mr. Hubert.

No; I mean in person?

Mr. Bellocchio.

I saw him at the trial.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you called as a witness?

Mr. Bellocchio.

Yes; I was.

Mr. Hubert.

By the defense or the prosecution?

Mr. Bellocchio.

By the defense.

Mr. Hubert.

But you haven't communicated with him otherwise?

Mr. Bellocchio.

No; I haven't.

Mr. Hubert.

Who communicated with you to get you to be a witness at the trial?

Mr. Bellocchio.

One of the private detectives working for the defense counsel.

Mr. Hubert.

I suppose you were interviewed by the defense counsel also?

Mr. Bellocchio.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

By Mr. Belli?

Mr. Bellocchio.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Tonahill?

Mr. Bellocohio.

On the stand.

Mr. Hubert.

I beg your pardon?

Mr. Bellocchio.

On the stand only. I was never interviewed prior to then by them.

Mr. Hubert.

You were never interviewed prior to that?

Mr. Bellocchio.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

But you were interviewed by the private detective?

Mr. Bellocchio.

Yes; I was.

Mr. Hubert.

And you told him in effect what, what you told us today?

Mr. Bellocchio.

In effect the same thing I have just given to you. They were more interested in his emotional condition, whether he seemed to be stable and so forth, at the time I spoke to him.

Mr. Hubert.

During any part of this conversation you had with Ruby on the 23d, did he make any remarks seeming to connect up the shooting of the President with the Weissman ad and the Earl Warren signs?

Mr. Bellocchio.

I don't believe so---no; and looking back at my conversation with him, he seemed to be very incoherent. He didn't seem to be thinking along any straight or any clear line. He would take one side and then he would jump and take the other side. He said Dallas was not responsible, and then he produced the photographs which said, "Impeach Earl Warren," and at this point he seemed to be holding Dallas responsible. He seemed to be taking beth sides of the issue.

Mr. Hubert.

All right; do you have any other comment to make?

Mr. Bellocchio.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, Mr. Bellocchio, I don't think there have been any conversations between us at all since I first met you a few moments ago that have not been recorded is, that correct?