appeared here today by virtue of a letter written to you by Mr. J. Lee Rankin, general counsel of the staff of the President's Commission asking you to come here; is that correct?
Mr. Bellocchio.
That's correct.
Mr. Hubert.
When did you receive that letter?
Mr. Bellocchio.
Approximately 6 days ago, I believe, 5 or 6 days ago.
Mr. Hubert.
Would you stand and take the oath, please, and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mr. Bellocchio.
I do.
Mr. Hubert.
Your name is Frank Bellocchio; is that correct?
Mr. Bellocchio.
That is correct.
Mr. Hubert.
Where do you live, sir?
Mr. Bellocchio.
9832 San Lea Drive, Dallas.
Mr. Hubert.
What is your occupation?
Mr. Bellocchio.
Jeweler--self-employed.
Mr. Hubert.
Located where?
Mr. Bellocchio.
8310 Varsity Plaza is the retail store and at 1517 Commerce Street.
Mr. Hubert.
That's a retail store?
Mr. Bellocchio.
No, this is a jewelry workshop.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know Jack Ruby?
Mr. Bellocchio.
Yes; I do.
Mr. Hubert.
How long have you known him?
Mr. Bellocchio.
Seven or eight years.
Mr. Hubert.
In what way did you get to know him and how did your acquaintance or friendship continue?
Mr. Bellocchio.
I believe it was about 8 years ago that my wife and I strolled into his nightclub in Oaklawn.
Mr. Hubert.
The Vegas Club?
Mr. Bellocchio.
The Vegas.
Mr. Hubert.
You got to know him there?
Mr. Bellocchio.
And I got to know Jack Ruby. He introduced himself to me, and also some people knew me as a jewelry designer and he seemed to be impressed by this. He came over and he introduced himself to me and made his acquaintance in that manner.
Mr. Hubert.
How did your acquaintance or friendship, whichever it was, develop from that point?
Mr. Bellocchio.
Then I believe I went in--I believe my brother came down here from New York that summer.
Mr. Hubert.
That's about 8 years ago?
Mr. Bellocchio.
About 8 years ago--maybe 7 and maybe 9. My brother came down from New York City and my wife and I, I believe my brother and I believe his wife, went to the Vegas Club. Again, Jack Ruby came over to the table. My brother is on the police department in New York City and of course Jack Ruby was always impressed, you know, with police officers and so forth, and he got to talking to me and my brother all about some sort of business deal he had down here. I think it was this frozen pizzas. Jack Ruby spoke about going into the frozen pizza business, and the way he put it, I think he had plans to corner the frozen pizza business in the South. This was on my second meeting with Jack Ruby, and I believe the only time I actually sat at a table and spoke with him. After that from time to time I would see Jack Ruby downtown maybe walking in the opposite way or in a restaurant and he would always give me a big "Hello.''
Mr. Hubert.
There was no social relationship between you then such as visiting in one another's houses and going out together or anything like that?
Mr. Bellocchio.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you have any business relationships with him?
Mr. Bellocchio.
Never.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he come to your shop sometime?
Mr. Bellocchio.
I don't--I'm sure Jack Ruby was never in our store at Preston Center, and he may have visited my workshop downtown once. I vaguely remem-
