Mrs. Powell.

No. What is Life Line?

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ever hear Jack have any political discussions with anybody?

Mrs. Powell.

No; never.

Mr. Griffin.

What do you remember about this fellow Larry, the carnival kid?

Mrs. Powell.

I remember I didn't like him too much.

Mr. Griffin.

Why not?

Mrs. Powell.

Well, because I thought he was kind of a bum, and I don't like bums. He is kind of a--like kind of gave me the creeps or something, like some guy. I think he looked at you kind of funny. I don't know, I didn't like him, and he got pretty bossy.
Jack let him sleep up in the place there, and he decided he was big cheese, and he came back there one night telling me something that I should do, and I really jumped on him and told him, "All you are is a flunky and you are just up here to sweep floors." So, I don't think he liked me too well after that.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack ever give you any of the reducing pills he was taking?

Mrs. Powell.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he give any to the other girls?

Mrs. Powell.

No. I didn't know he was taking reducing pills. He had some kind of powder junk and you are supposed to put it in your coffee and it will hold your appetite down.

Mr. Griffin.

Diet pills is what I meant when I said reducing pills.

Mrs. Powell.

But I just saw this powder and he had that sitting on the table by the coffee.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know anything about any transactions he did under the name of Banker Drugs?

Mrs. Powell.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you ever heard that? Banker Drugs?

Mrs. Powell.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know a number of the girls that swore out affidavits against Jack for AGVA, and they said in their affidavits that Jack wanted them to mingle with the customers contrary to the AGVA rules and so forth? What do you know about that?

Mrs. Powell.

That is not true. That is absolutely untrue, absolutely.
Jack had a hard time in that club because the other clubs were in competition with him, and they have been here 20 years. Not near as bad as Jack imagined.
He had this big thing built up in his mind that they were trying to put him out of business, but really they weren't.

Mr. Griffin.

Why do you say that?

Mrs. Powell.

I don't think they were. Why should they care. They have been in business 20 years, and still doing the same things. Other clubs help you. It is competition, and people like that, and people like to go to other clubs in different districts.
Jack was upset about the amateur nights and I can see why, because the amateurs were all working and they got $10 a night doing a show.
They had four clubs in Dallas they could work, and that was $40 a week, plus all the daytime jobs.

Mr. Griffin.

What were the four clubs? I know of the Carousel, the Theatre Lounge, and the Colony Club. What was the fourth?

Mrs. Powell.

Vegas. He let the girls work at the Vegas to help them out to get another $10. He didn't need it at the Vegas. The place was packed all the time.
They passed this rule that you couldn't have amateur exotics any more because it was knocking some legitimate acts out of business, so Jack immediately--they sent wires to all the club owners, and Jack immediately stopped.
But the other two clubs continued to have their amateur exotics. But they said the girls had to join the union. You had to pay them $35 a night. That is union scale for a night.
But they weren't paying them that. They were paying them $10 or $15 just per usual.

Mr. Griffin.

How do you know that?