Mr. Griffin.

And there was somebody that you called Toyo?

Mrs. Helmick.

She was a Japanese woman.

Mr. Griffin.

Is she still working there?

Mrs. Helmick.

To my knowledge, she is.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that her first name or her last name?

Mrs. Helmick.

That was her first name.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know what her last name was?

Mrs. Helmick.

I don't have no idea. It was an American name. I know where she lives.

Mr. Griffin.

Where does she live?

Mrs. Helmick.

I believe it is 19th Street. Let's see, it's behind Taylor Super Market in Grand Prairie.

Mr. Griffin.

Grand Prairie?

Mrs. Helmick.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Was the cashier present at that time?

Mrs. Helmick.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was the cashier?

Mrs. Helmick.

She was Rose.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what happened? Will you tell us what happened?

Mrs. Helmick.

Well, we were sitting there gossiping about something, I don't remember what, but we was teasing or aggravating Johnnie well, Paul you call him.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Ralph Paul sitting there at the booth with you?

Mrs. Helmick.

No, he was behind the counter, and Rose got up and went back there to do something, and she started talking to him, and the telephone rang, and she said, "It is for you. It is Jack."
So he took the phone and he had been talking quite a while, and he said something. He either said, "Are you crazy? A gun?" or something like that, or he said something about a gun.
Then he said, "Are you crazy?" But he did say something about a gun, and he asked him if he was crazy.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did he talk on this telephone call?

Mrs. Helmick.

He Just talked for about 5 minutes, I guess. It wasn't very long.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you hear anything else that was said in the telephone conversation?

Mrs. Helmick.

He said something about either he had a date with Tammi or Jack had a date with Tammi, and Jack wanted to talk to Ralph, and that is all I know.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, after you heard that conversation, did you talk with any of the other employees about that?

Mrs. Helmick.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know if any of the other people who were seated in that booth also heard that conversation?

Mrs. Helmick.

They were sitting close enough to hear it and there wasn't anything else being said at the time, because after Rose got up and went over to talk to Johnny, we didn't talk very much, and it was real quiet after she left. Nobody was saying anything.

Mr. Griffin.

What did Ralph do after receiving that telephone call?

Mrs. Helmick.

Well, it wasn't very long, I guess 15 or 20 minutes until he left.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he tell you why he left?

Mrs. Helmick.

No. He told Rose, but he didn't tell us.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you hear him tell Rose? Did you see him talking to Rose?

Mrs. Helmick.

He said, "I will see you tomorrow." That is all I heard. He said that in sort of a loud voice, but other than that, he was talking sort of low.

Mr. Griffin.

How long had you talked with Ralph that evening?

Mrs. Helmick.

Well, I hadn't really talked to Ralph that evening. He just told me, well, that morning he told me where everything was, and other than that, I didn't talk to him.

Mr. Griffin.

But you said you had been sitting at the both talking to him.

Mrs. Helmick.

Rose and Bonnie and Toyo and this man, he is a tall man, I