Testimony of

The testimony of John G. McCullough was taken at 11 a.m., on July 29, 1.964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE. Washington, D.C., by Messrs. Burt W. Griffin, assistant counsel, and Stuart Pollak, staff member, of the President's Commission.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Burt Griffin. I am a member of. the advisory staff to the general counsel of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy.
It is our normal practice before deposing a witness to explain a little bit about what the Commission is about. I think you will find most of what I have to say you are well aware of.
As you probably know, the Commission was established pursuant to an Executive order of President Johnson and a joint resolution of Congress. Under those two official acts, the Commission was directed to investigate the assassination of President Kennedy and the death of Lee Harvey Oswald, and to report back to President Johnson, to find out all the facts it is able to determine.
We have asked you to come here today in particular because you were in Dallas on the 22d, 23d, and 24th of November, and because you did have occasion to see Jack Ruby on one of those days.
I might also indicate that under the rules and. regulations that have been established by the Commission, I have been specifically designated to take your deposition.
Also under these rules, you are entitled to a 3-day notice in writing before you appear here. We did send you a letter, I believe. I don't know when you received it.

Mr. Mccullough.

I received the letter 3 days ago.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. I might note for the record at this point Mr. Stuart Pollak has Just walked in. Do you have any questions that you would like to ask?

Mr. Mccullough.

None at all. I think I am familiar with the purpose of the Commission, and the reason for my being here.

Mr. Griffin.

If you will raise your right hand, I will administer the oath to you.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you shall give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Mccullough.

I do.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you state for the record your full name?

Mr. Mccullough.

John G. McCullough.

Mr. Griffin.

Where do you live?

Mr. Mccullough.

6345 Woodbine Avenue, Philadelphia, Pa.

Mr. Griffin.

By whom are you employed?

Mr. Mccullough.

The Philadelphia Bulletin.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you employed by the Bulletin in November of 1963?

Mr. Mccullough.

I was; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

In the course of your employment with the Bulletin, did you go to Dallas after President Kennedy was shot?

Mr. Mccullough.

I went to Dallas within an hour after President Kennedy was shot, and arrived in Dallas by plane about 7 p.m., Dallas time.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do when you got to Dallas? Where did you go first?

Mr. Mccullough.

Do you want me to just continue?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Mccullough.

I went immediately to the Dallas Municipal Building, and to the police headquarters. I am uncertain now. of exactly what floor this was on. I stayed at the police headquarters floor of the building for 6 or 7 hours, since this was the scene of the operations.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you on that floor continuously during that period, or were there times when you were off?

Mr. Mccullough.

There were times when I was off the floor, to use the telephone, or to consult with other members of the Bulletin staff who were also on