Mr. Pappas.

The best estimate is 6 feet.

Mr. Griffin.

Is there any way that you can describe at a distance of, say, 4 to 8 feet, the pickup ability of your microphone?

Mr. Pappas.

Do you mean if the subject is 4 feet from my microphone?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Pappas.

Then what?

Mr. Griffin.

Then in terms of the volume of the sound, what ability does your microphone have to pick up sound at that point?

Mr. Pappas.

It depends on the volume of the sound.

Mr. Griffin.

Can it pick up conversation in a normal tone of voice at 4 feet?

Mr. Pappas.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How about at 8 feet?

Mr. Pappas.

At 8 feet it would. It would pick up normal conversation. Naturally the volume of it would be less, but it would be audible.

Mr. Griffin.

Is there any way you can think of that we can describe the ability of this microphone at these two distances, 4 and 8 feet, to pick up sounds which are of less volume than a normal speaking voice?

Mr. Pappas.

I am not sure whether I understand your question.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, trying to find out--you said that it would not pick up a whisper at one point. Now, somewhere between a whisper and normal speaking voice there are other conversational tones or ranges of loudness that you might be able to describe in your own words and from your own experience, that this microphone might pick up at those distances.

Mr. Pappas.

I have had no experience with any volume of voice between a whisper and a normal speaking voice. I could not tell you.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to mark a document for the purpose of identification as Icarus M. Pappas Deposition, July 29, 1964, Exhibit No. 3.
(The document referred to was marked Icarus M. Pappas Deposition Exhibit No. 3 for identification.)

Mr. Griffin.

Now, this document consists of two pages, numbered consecutively at the bottom 475 and 476. And it is a copy of an interview report prepared by two special agents of the FBI, Lower and Hester, as a result of speaking with you in New York City on July 2, 1964. I would like to ask you to look at this interview report, read it over, and tell us if that accurately reports your conversation with them on that date as best you can recall.

Mr. Pappas.

I think it does; yes, basically.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Let me ask you, then, if you would sign the interview report on the first page and lnitial the second page.

Mr. Pappas.

All right.

Mr. Griffin.

Sign it on the first page at a conspicuous spot at the top.

Mr. Pappas.

This is an affidavit?

Mr. Griffin.

No; this is just an interview report.

Mr. Pappas.

Do I get a copy of this?

Mr. Griffin.

You can get a copy of the deposition that is being taken here. And we can then--

Mr. Pappas.

Can I have this read?

Mr. Griffin.

Do you want to--

Mr. Pappas.

No; it is all right.
All right. Where shall I sign it--right here?

Mr. Griffin.

Up at the top; yes, and just initial the next page.
Now, let me hand you also what I have marked as Icarus M. Pappas deposition, July 29, 1964, Exhibit No. 4.
(The document referred to was marked Icarus M. Pappas Deposition Exhibit No. 4 for identification.)

Mr. Griffin.

This is another interview report prepared by two agents of the FBI, Eugene W. O'Neill, and James J. Rogers. It reports an interview that they had with you in New York City June 30, 1964, and it also consists of two pages. If you would read that, and also tell us if that accurately reflects what you told them at that time.

Mr. Pappas.

This does.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you sign that, then, on the first page, and initial the second? I might ask you one final question, which is a very general question.