Mr. Griffin.

Have you heard anything that would indicate that any police officer gave him any assistance or any advice?

Mr. Robertson.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to mark for the purpose of identification a copy of the interview report that the FBI made after talking with you. The first one is a report made by Special Agent Paul Scott of an interview he had with you on January 17, 1964, and it consists of three pages, and are numbered at the bottom of the page, 10, 11, and 12, and I am going to mark this at the top "Victor Robertson, Deposition, July 24, 1964, Exhibit No. 1." I would like You to look at it, Mr. Robertson, and read it over and tell me if there are any changes or corrections that you would make in it. I really have particular reference to whether or not that is an accurate report of what you said at the time.

Mr. Robertson.

The only comment I would make about the report is that where it says, "While at Houston Street with Hugh Aynesworth, a WFAA photographer, he heard on a police radio that Officer Tippit had been shot in Oak Cliff, and he and Aynesworth proceeded to Oak Cliff." Aynesworth was not the photographer. There were two separate people. The other thing I would comment on is, in the second paragraph, Mr. Scott reports accurately that I had seen Ruby, and said sometime possibly between 5 and 7 p.m., which is what I told him and was my best judgment as to the time, although it may have been slightly somewhere between 3:15 and 7 or 8 p.m. That is what I told him and I answered to my best judgment on it.

Mr. Griffin.

In light of the conversation that we have had today, is that still your best judgment or would you narrow it in some other way?

Mr. Robertson.

I can't narrow it. The only thing that I can do is really broaden it to be sure that it is comprehensive.

Mr. Griffin.

What is the latest you would place it at?

Mr. Robertson.

I believe the latest possibly would have been 7 or 7:30 p.m.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me hand you what I have marked as Victor Robertson's Deposition, July 24, 1964, Exhibit No. 2. This is a document that consists of two pages, and it is an interview report by FBI Agent Vincent E. Drain, of an interview he had with you on June 9, 1964. I ask you to read it and comment on that in the same way that you did on the first one.

Mr. Robertson.

The only comment I would make on this is at the end of the second paragraph. Mr. Drain has stated that the first time Ruby was mentioned by him was on a portion of the time that he reported in late December, 1963, etc., etc. This apparently is Vincent's report of the consensus that was true at the time. As I said, I mentioned to him I thought I had had it in the earlier broadcast, but Walter Evans said it had not been. The other observation I would make is that I don't recall having said between 5 and 6 o'clock. I thought I had said between 5 and 7.

Mr. Griffin.

All right, let me ask you then if you will sign each of these exhibits up near the top where I have marked them.

Mr. Robertson.

Is this all right?

Mr. Griffin.

Any place that is conspicuous.

Mr. Robertson.

(initials).

Mr. Griffin.

Thank you very much. I appreciate your taking out this time.

Mr. Robertson.

My pleasure. If there is anything else I can do, let me know.

Frederic Rheinstein
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Testimony of Frederic Rheinstein

The testimony of Frederic Rheinstein was taken at 10:30 a.m., on July 1964, at 120 Linden Avenue, Long Beach, Calif., by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Frederic Rheinstein, called as a witness herein, having been first duly sworn was examined and testified as follows: