Mr. Griffin.

How do you place the time?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, because he says to me, "What are you doing?"
My trouble, I have a habit, and this watch stays right there on this long table, and I watch television when it is on.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did that telephone call last?

Mrs. Grant.

Not too long.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack say to you that he was at his apartment?

Mrs. Grant.

No, but it was very quite. I felt he was there alone.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate to you he was going to go anyplace after that telephone call?

Mrs. Grant.

No. He could have been at a booth, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate anything about the Weinsteins to you in that telephone call?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he mention the Weinsteins to you on Saturday night?

Mrs. Grant.

No. Friday we talked about it. We talked about clubs, and I am sure in the back of his mind he referred to the, what is it, Branch office club.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he say anything about doing something to Oswald?

Mrs. Grant.

Never even mentioned his name. Never even watched only the one time Friday. He took a look and said something, "What a creep." He didn't watch television from my house. Now, I don't mean he didn't watch television. If he did, it wasn't that it would have where he sits, he don't face it like I sit opposite it.

Mr. Griffin.

Then the next thing you heard from him, heard about Jack was that he had shot Oswald?

Mrs. Grant.

May I go back to you and tell you all the things that happened Sunday morning? Is that what you want to know?

Mr. Griffin.

I am sure I do. Did you remain at your apartment all Sunday morning?
Did you remain at your apartment all Sunday morning?

Mrs. Grant.

Never left it until the time I walked out with Pauline and Bill Rainbow. No, I didn't leave. No, I stayed there. Pauline and that New York reporter .

Mr. Griffin.

Jim Underwood? Ike Pappas?

Mrs. Grant.

No. I think his name is something like Denson or Jensen. I think he said New York Times.

Mr. Griffin.

At the time were you watching television when your brother shot Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Grant.

Let me explain this. I got up early in the morning. I took a pill. I freshened up myself. I didn't get dressed into my clothes. I went back into the bed. Then I decided to get out, and I turned on television, and all I saw is important people passing the coffin on television, people from all over the world.
I started to put on water, and I didn't feel good, and I was listening, and then all of a sudden they started, they changed the scene themselves, and I saw a guy with, it seems to me a three-quarters length coat with glasses and a lot of hair, and he is talking, and is mumbling.

Mr. Burleson.

Tom?

Mrs. Grant.

I don't know who to this very day. I don't know who they were talking about.

Mr. Griffin.

This was on the occasion--

Mrs. Grant.

This was after 11 o'clock now.

Mr. Griffin.

But this was how you learned that Jack had shot Oswald?

Mrs. Grant.

Let me explain this. My phone rang, and I heard this guy say--this may be twisting the words around. "There has been a little excite-merit here," and he stopped and he says, "I think they shot Oswald."
And my phone rang. Leonard Wood was talking to me on the phone. This is all in--whether he was listening to another station, or something, I don't know, and he is talking to me, and what do you think I said to him, I said,