Mrs. Grant.

I said over the phone, "You better come here." And I don't remember even what my last words on the phone.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you receive a telephone call from him before you saw him again?

Mrs. Grant.

This time was around 1:30, we assume. You mean from anybody?

Mr. Griffin.

No; from Jack now.

Mrs. Grant.

I don't think so. This was the last, because I had said you better come here.

Mr. Griffin.

After the telephone from the Morning News, your recollection is that the next thing was that you saw him?

Mrs. Grant.

Before 1:30, that was that call, and one other call in the morning. That was before 1:30, and we will say 11 o'clock or 11:10 or a quarter of 11.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, after 1:30, when did you next hear from him or see him?

Mrs. Grant.

He came over, and it may have been an hour and 15 minutes. That is what it seems to me.

Mr. Griffin.

Would it be as much as 2 or 2 1/2 hours?

Mrs. Grant.

That was later. Now, he came over, because I said, "You better come here." And he knew how sick I had been.

Mr. Griffin.

When he came over, did he have anything with him?

Mrs. Grant.

What are you talking about?

Mr. Griffin.

The first time he came to your apartment on Friday afternoon?

Mrs. Grant.

He had the newspaper.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he have any sandwiches with him at that point?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

"Now, between the time that he showed up, going backward, and the time that he called you from the, Morning News, had he telephoned you?

Mrs. Grant.

Not from that last phone call.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have any recollection of his telephoning you from the Carousel Club on Friday?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did he telephone you from the Carousel Club between the time he called you from the Morning News and the time he saw you at your house?

Mrs. Grant.

Mr. Griffin, if you don't let me tell my story my way--that is what this whole-- I had told him he better come. I was sick. I was so sick. I had a major operation, and I felt I was going to fall apart. I don't know what was happening to me over there. I just can't explain it. I was operatedlet me tell you---on November the 7th, so you figure, and the other doctors know about what happened.
He came over and he didn't stay long. It seems to me he stayed 5 minutes or 8 minutes or 10 minutes. He did not stay a half-hour. He said, "What do you want?" I said, "Will you get something from the delicatessen?" And he said, "I have to go back to the club." He said, "Well, did you read it?" And I said, "Yes." He left,
Now, I assume he called me from the Carousel, and I actually assume it was about an hour later, maybe, or even an hour and a half. So, I said, "When are you coming?" And he said, "Well, I will go over to Phirs Delicatessen." And I said, "Where are you?" And he said, "I am downtown." And I said, "Listen, I would rather you went to the Ritz," which is down the street. They have better food. They have freshet and better variety. He said, "I am coming right over." His "right over" came, I would say it was, after 4 o'clock. Maybe
a quarter of 5. Maybe it was 5. Maybe it was even 5:15.

Mr. Griffin.

Could have been as late as 5:30 or 6?

Mrs. Grant.

It wasn't after 5:30.

Mr. Griffin.

What makes you think this?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, we were waiting for the 6 o'clock news, and it seems to me that there wasn't enough news on there. But as a rule, as little as I stay home to listen, I know there is a 6 o'clock news. By that time I heard already a policeman was shot, and he probably heard it where he was. And I remember watching television, and that afternoon it seems to me this man was Curry,