Mr. Dietrich.

After Mr. Fleming talked to him?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Dietrich.

Well, he received instructions from him. There was a question as to which truck was going to be used, and they decided they wanted to use the larger truck, which is No. 46. It is, I guess, one of the largest armored cars in the world.
And he also found out from the captain as to when they were supposed arrive. And then there was a question- -

Mr. Hubert.

Did you get any information as to when he was supposed to arrive?

Mr. Dietrich.

No; I didn't, because I didn't want Mr. Fleming to think I was eavesdropping.

Mr. Hubert.

I mean; did he tell you what time?

Mr. Dietrich.

No; he didn't. I think he talked with Mr. Hall as to what time?

Mr. Hubert.

Did you hear?

Mr. Dietrich.

No; I didn't hear that.

Mr. Hubert.

All right; go on.

Mr. Dietrich.

Well, after he talked with this captain at the police department, there was a question of whether we should take shotguns and as to how many shotguns we were to take, and so forth, and so on. And Mr. Fleming and Mr. Hall decided not to take shotguns, that revolvers would be enough. Mr. Fleming's contention was that actually we were only going to transport Oswald the city jail to the county jail, and that it was up to the police to provide necessary protection. All we were going to do was to provide the necessary protection. All we were going to do was provide the transportaion.

Mr. Hubert.

So you had your sidearm, but you did not put the shotgun shoulder as usual?

Mr. Dietrich.

That's right; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Was there any delay in getting away?

Mr. Dietrich.

None; other than the time consumed discussing whether we would take shotguns or not.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember any difficulty in starting the larger car due to battery difficulty?

Mr. Dietrich.

Yes; we had difficulty starting it.

Mr. Hubert.

What kind of difficulty, and how long did it take to cure it?

Mr. Dietrich.

Well, I think about 10 minutes to start the truck; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How was it started?

Mr. Dietrich.

If I remember correctly, they backed another truck up to it, and I think they used a hotshot. They brought a cable out and connected up one battery to the other.

Mr. Hubert.

Who did that?

Mr. Dietrich.

I didn't participate in it because I was dressed up and I didn't feel like getting dirty. It was Mr. Hall and Don Goin were the ones participating in getting the truck started.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ride from the terminal to the city jail?

Mr. Dietrich.

Yes; with Don Goin. Don drove.

Mr. Hubert.

What truck were you in?

Mr. Dietrich.

Well, that I can't remember. I asked Don Goin prior to my coming in here, actually, as to which truck it was. He can't remember and I can't either. I think it was 49. I am not sure.

Mr. Hubert.

But it was not the larger truck?

Mr. Dietrich.

No; Mr. Fleming and Mr. Hall were in 46, which is the larger truck.

Mr. Hubert.

When you say you can't remember which truck you rode in, you were talking about what number it had, but you do remember that you rode the smaller of the two?

Mr. Dietrich.

The smaller of the two; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Who was driving the smaller of the two?

Mr. Dietrich.

Don Goin.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you actually follow the larger truck; or did it follow you?

Mr. Dietrich.

We followed the large truck.

Mr. Hubert.

What route did you take from the terminal to the city jail?

Mr. Dietrich.

If I remember correctly, we entered Ross Avenue, took a left.