Mr. Knight.

I don't know if it was soiled with use or maybe somebody could have given it to him just lately.

Mr. Griffin.

Soiled in a manner that indicated that somebody had read it, or that it had just been neglected?

Mr. Knight.

No, that it had been folded up and read. It was a new piece of paper. It had been folded and unfolded and folded and unfolded and read.

Mr. Griffin.

What did Ruby say about Life Line?

Mr. Knight.

Again this is strange, and I don't know why he should pick me to give this to but he said, "You seem like a square guy, why don't you look this over and read it?"

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate any opinion as to his approval or disapproval as to the contents of that?

Mr. Knight.

No, no. At the time it struck me as kind of odd when I look. back on it--at the time I couldn't care less. But when I look back on it it did strike me as rather odd because he seemed to have no opinion, and I couldn't figure why he gave me the copy of the speech if he believed it. I thought, my first impression was that he thought this was the form of radicalism that was sort of mumbled and talked about a little bit.

Mr. Griffin.

What did he say about radicalism?

Mr. Knight.

This is a word I use. I don't think he even mentioned radical. But he did mention along with it a word which I can',t recall in this Saturday night conversation. I don't think he used the word radical but I can't think what he used, but we did discuss that area.

Mr. Griffin.

Was he talking about people who were of the John Birch Society character, the right-wing radicals, or was he talking about the Lee Harvey Oswald type radicals?

Mr. Knight.

That I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate approval or disapproval of radicals?

Mr. Knight.

Disapproval.

Mr. Griffin.

Did the conversation indicate in any way that he thought there might be any connection between what you are calling radicalism in Dallas and the assassination?

Mr. Knight.

No, he didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, can you be a little more explicit on what you think, what you recall of this discussion about radicalism, what it consisted of?

Mr. Knight.

Ruby seemed, he had the speech but he didn't seem to be cognizant fully of what the speech was or actually what side that he stood on. Again he just mentioned, and I know this is rather ambiguous, I'm just kind of confused.

Mr. Griffin.

All right.

Mr. Knight.

But he did mention a group in Dallas that hated President Kennedy.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he mention this group by name?

Mr. Knight.

No; just mentioned like there Is an element here that hates, that hated Mr. Kennedy.

Mr. Griffin.

All right; did he indicate that he had any specific people in mind?

Mr. Knight.

No; in fact I asked him. I saw the copy of Hunt and his Life Line called Heroism, and myself, I have always thought, I think Hunt is a definite radical. I think he's about halfway out of it in common terms. And I mentioned to him, I said, I think now again, I think I said, "Do you mean the Hunts?" And he didn't reply either yes or no, just kind of, because I don't know if he even knew the term, Hunt or not. I'm sure he did but he didn't seem to recollect it, the name, or any more about it when I brought it up. That was late at night and I was tired.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he mention any other names?

Mr. Knight.

No; Hunt was the name that came to my mind, Life Line, especially after he gave me the speech.

Mr. Griffin.

What radio station in Dallas has a Life Line broadcast?

Mr. Knight.

KLRD; I think, KLRD.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know the people in the news department of KLRD?

Mr. Knight.

Not on a personal basis. I have talked with them maybe twice.