Mr. Griffin.

Do you ever recall talking with him about any books that he had been reading?

Mr. Wright.

Never.

Mr. Griffin.

Specifically, did he ever mention to you that he was reading any books about the Jewish people such as Exodus by Uris?

Mr. Wright.

No; not to me.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack ever indicate that he didn't approve of Catholic jokes?

Mr. Wright.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have any limitation on the sexual jokes that might be told?

Mr. Wright.

Well, yes. There is a standard that I think all MC's with quality carry, and Jack, operating as an operator here in Dallas, realized that you can only go so far, and if you go over further, you only end up hurting yourself anyway. He maintained as good an operation as anyone else in town, as far as I am concerned.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he ever express any views on the political jokes that you might have told?

Mr. Wright.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Specifically, did you have any occasion to talk with him about President Kennedy?

Mr. Wright.

I imagine once or twice he mentioned the fact that he admired President Kennedy quite a bit and had a great deal of admiration for him and what he was trying to do.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have any specific recollection of such a conversation?

Mr. Wright.

Not specifically; no.

Mr. Griffin.

What sort of relationships did he have with his employees?

Mr. Wright.

Well, with Jack, it was an off and on relationship. He could be smiling and joking with you one moment, and then be mad and ready to throw you out of his club the next. He was a very unpredictable man when it came to relationship between employees and boss.

Mr. Griffin.

How was his employee turnover? What success did he have in keeping people?

Mr. Wright.

He had very good success in keeping people. Jack was the type of person that you liked and disliked, and how you can analyze this, I don't know. But with all his faults, the way he did things, you still liked the man, and at the same time he could make you dislike him just like that [snapping fingers], you know, on the spur of the moment.

Mr. Griffin.

Was it your experience that once he hired somebody, that that person stayed with him?

Mr. Wright.

Pretty much so. I know the length of time I worked with Jack, and even after I left Jack, most of the employees that were there when I came there and came there after I was there, were still there when I left.

Mr. Griffin.

Did this include the dancers?

Mr. Wright.

Most of the dancers, and the band was there for the year and a half after I left.

Mr. Griffin.

What was Jack's attitude toward his competitors, the Weinsteins?

Mr. Wright.

He thought they were out to close him up. Neither Abe nor Barney were worried too much about Jack, but Jack worried all the time about them. He tried to outdo them or capitalize on any publicity that might bring people from their club to his club.

Mr. Griffin.

What was it that they did which indicated to Jack that they were trying to close him up?

Mr. Wright.

Nothing. Just Jack's own mind and the way he thought.

Mr. Griffin.

What sort of things did he attempt to do to attract people from their club to his club?

Mr. Wright.

Well, trying to put in different ads. In fact, he had a billboard made about his club and some of the pictures of the acts in the club put in the cleaners underneath Abe's club and things of that sort.

Mr. Griffin.

That is the Enquire Shine & Press Shop?

Mr. Wright.

Yes; it is right below Abe's club and each night the guy would