Mr. Wright.

to this conclusion. But most of the material would be standard material burlesque houses.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you tell us what sort of personal things Jack was sensitive about?

Mr. Wright.

His hair. His speech.

Mr. Griffin.

What was there about his speech?

Mr. Wright.

Well, he had a small impediment in his speech that he was quite conscious of.

Mr. Griffin.

Was it a lisp?

Mr. Wright.

Sort of a lisp, and he wore a hat practically all the time outside of the club. He was very conscious of that. And he was very conscious of his weight. He was always going on a diet, or weightlifting, or something, and he was always conscious of the fact that a lot of people thought he was sort of a gay boy. Whether he was, I don't know personally.

Mr. Griffin.

What was there--I take it by "gay boy," you mean that he was a homosexual?

Mr. Wright.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

What was there about him that gave that impression?

Mr. Wright.

I don't know. He never impressed me that way, but he him self thought that people thought he was that way.

Mr. Griffin.

Had you ever heard anyone say that they thought he was a homosexual?

Mr. Wright.

No; not personally.

Mr. Griffin.

How would Jack mention this to you?

Mr. Wright.

Well, in a joking manner. As I remember, one time gave him a cigar or something, and he put it in his mouth and lit it and said to me, "I don't look gay now, do I?" It was Jack's attitude toward people that I imagine some people might have thought he was that way.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you be more explicit about his attitude toward people?

Mr. Wright.

Well, he seemed, and I imagine in the eyes of most people, to go out generally with more men than women. But there were more women that came to the club to see Jack than men. George Senator is about the only guy that I know that he ran around with who was his roommate, and Ralph Paul, who was one of his partners. But other than that--

Mr. Griffin.

Was the Carousel Club frequented, to your knowledge, by homosexuals?

Mr. Wright.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Are there clubs in Dallas which are hangouts for homosexuals?

Mr. Wright.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack object to any sort of religious jokes other than Jewish jokes?

Mr. Wright.

Not to my knowledge. He specifically made a statement that he didn't want any Jewish stories at all told, whether or not they were jokes or just stories or anything about Jewish people.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there anything else in his conversation with you or his behavior that suggested other things concerning his attitude about being a Jew?

Mr. Wright.

No; not to my knowledge, because I worked for just about every club. He was a typical club owner, but an odd one.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, you had worked for the two Weinsteins, and I take it they are beth Jewish?

Mr. Wright.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did they have the same attitude toward Jewish jokes?

Mr. Wright.

No; very few Jewish people do have. In fact, I worked for a lot of Jewish people, and Jack is the only Jewish owner of any club that ever told me that or has ever told any MC that.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you every been in Jack's apartment?

Mr. Wright.

Yes; I was over there once. George fixed dinner, and I don't know, there were a bunch of kids from. the club, and we all went over one night after dosing.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you ever recall seeing any books in Jack's apartment?

Mr. Wright.

No.