Mr. Pullman.

there and he did bring some of them down. As a matter of fact, you will find photographic records of it from the Dallas Times Herald---they took a picture, and he may be in some of those pictures with one of the girls on the twistboard, and I also mentioned the fact that pictures were taken by the Dallas Times Herald newspaper, I believe, and they were actually publicity shots that were taken. Now, he used to come in with this friend, George Senator.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did the show run?

Mr. Pullman.

It ran for a week.

Mr. Griffin.

And what week did it run?

Mr. Pullman.

I believe it was from November 1st through the 7th.

Mr. Griffin.

And how often did Jack come?

Mr. Pullman.

Oh, he tried to get down there almost every night if he could, but he did come down one night; he made a tour of the place and he ran across the H. L. Hunt display, and during that time they were giving out a shopping bag with food and a lot of this Lifeline literature that they inserted into the bags and I heard somebody calling my name I was away up towards the middle of the display and I heard somebody call my name and it was Jack way down below calling me and he was walking at a very fast clip and he had a bunch of papers in his hand and he comes up to me breathless with Senator trailing behind him and showing me all this Lifeline material, and I couldn't stop to read it because there were people all around the place, and he said, "I'm going to send this stuff to Kennedy--I want to send this stuff to Kennedy." He said, "Nobody
has any right to talk like this about our Government."

Mr. Griffin.

Senator was present at the time?

Mr. Pullman.

Yes; George Senator was there. He got real excited and I said, "Well, you just know a.bout it now, but Lifeline has been out for some time," and that's what he does and that's how be gets his material around. He said, "I'm going to do something about this, I'm going to see that this is taken up in Washington," and that was the incident that I recall. I think I even mentioned that to the FBI.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall what this literature was; do you recall any of the specific pieces of literature?

Mr. Pullman.

Well, I know it was anti-administration, anti-Government type of literature that he has always been giving out. I don't know if you have ever listened to his Lifeline program on the radio or not.

Mr. Griffin.

W, hat sort of literature was this--was there a radio script or pamphlets?

Mr. Pullman.

Pamphlets--just pamphlets and sheets talking about the Government. I didn't stop to read them, but I know about them.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you actually look at these sheets?

Mr. Pullman.

Yes; I looked at the sheets.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there any advertising on it?

Mr. Pullman.

No; you see, actually, I don't know whether this ought to be in the record--that was one of the reasons, I understand, that he wasn't allowed to have his display at the New York Fair because he gives out this type of literature, and they broke his lease on that basis.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember the names of any of the pamphlets that were put out?

Mr. Pullman.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you recall them if some were suggested to you?

Mr. Pullman.

No; I couldn't say.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did Jack talk about this literature?

Mr. Pullman.

Oh, it was just a few minutes and then took off. He was all excited and red faced, livid, and that's the way he got--hot and cold like that and I have seen that so many times.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he complain to anybody at the H. L. Hunt booth?

Mr. Pullman.

No, there was no one there there was nobody there at the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Who else was present besides you and George Senator?

Mr. Pullman.

That's all.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ever sell any twistboards for Jack?