(Testimony of Hyman Rubenstein)
Mr. Rubenstein.
Yes; he has a son, a doctor, Dr. Hyman Rubenstein, and he has got about three or four sisters, very nice, family.
Mr. Griffin.
Where do they live?
Mr. Rubenstein.
On the north side.
Mr. Griffin.
They are living in Chicago?
Mr. Rubenstein.
In Chicago.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you see this family from time to time as you were children?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Very, not as regularly as we should. We should have seen them oftener but we didn't.
Mr. Griffin.
About how often would you say?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Once a year.
Mr. Griffin.
Was your father trained as a carpenter?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Yes; in the army.
Mr. Griffin.
How old was he when he went in the army?
Mr. Rubenstein.
He was a young man, very young.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you know what rank he attained?
Mr. Rubenstein.
According to the thing on his hat for the uniform it was a No. 2, and he always used to get in trouble with the captain, but he always would get right with the captain's wife, he would always make something for her, a cradle or a chair or something to even up the score.
Mr. Griffin.
Did he tell you any of his adventures, where he was?
Mr. Rubenstein.
He was in China, but he didn't like it. He was in Korea and he didn't like it. He was in Siberia and he hated it most of all. He broke away from the army.
Mr. Griffin.
How did he happen to leave?
Mr. Rubenstein.
He just left; walked away, walked away; went over to England; from England he went to Canada; from Canada he came to the United States.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, when he married your mother was he in the service?
Mr. Rubenstein.
He was in the service; in fact I and my sister were born when he left Europe.
Mr. Griffin.
You mean you were born after he left Europe?
Mr. Rubenstein.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
You had been born when he left Europe?
Mr. Rubenstein.
My sister and I.
Mr. Griffin.
That is the oldest?
Mr. Rubenstein.
That is the oldest sister.
Mr.GRIFFIN. She is Ann Volpert?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Right.
Mr. Griffin.
Do father left you know where you and your mother stayed when your?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Probably in Warsaw.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you know any reason why you did not accompany him?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Well, the only reason I can give you is he had to get away first. He didn't want the army to find him.
Mr. Griffin.
He was really escaping from the army?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Right. He didn't want any more of it. He had it. And I think there was a Japanese war going to break out there any day, and he didn't want no part of that so he just broke away.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you know if, did he ever mention whether religious. problems were a reason, any factor in his leaving or do you have the impression it was strictly his dislike for the military service that caused him to leave?
Mr. Rubenstein.
Well, you know Jews in the Russian Army is a tough proposition, a very minority race and he probably didn't like that, either.
Mr. Griffin.
He never mentioned that to you?
Mr. Rubenstein.
No, he wouldn't anyway. I don't think he is the type of a man who would mention things like that. He always felt that he belonged. We, the Jewish problem was never really brought up. We felt like if you did you were a coward. The Jewish problem was always kept to ourselves. Even
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