Mr. Ruby.

I didn't mention the term "John Birch." I just said, "I wonder who could have placed that ad in there?"

Mr. Tonahill.

That's all I have.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. Alexander, do you have any questions to ask?

Mr. Alexander.

I have no questions to ask. I think it has been most comprehensive.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. Ruby, did you go to the Dallas Morning News to protest the advertisement that made derogatory statements about President Kennedy?

Mr. Ruby.

No; I went there to place my ad, because my business is very--it's very important that I'm there on the weekend, in the first place. My business is conducted on a cash basis, and you can't place your ads unless you are there to pay for them.

Mr. Specter.

You testified to that before?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Specter.

Did you make any comment about the newspaper advertisement which contained derogatory references to President Kennedy?

Mr. Ruby.

We spoke about it up at the Morning News there, and I didn't want to make anything there about it because I knew they accepted it. They accepted the ad. It would be rather embarrassing to say something to them because they were responsible. The phones were ringing off the desks with people canceling various ads and so on, but I did make I went to the Turf Club-- that's where I got all hepped up about it-over at the Turf Lounge, and I went to the post office to find out who was it that placed that ad, you know, and how it came about.

Mr. Specter.

Are you satisfied then, Mr. Ruby, if we ask you one more question on the polygraph, specifically, "Has all the information which you have testified to today been the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?"

Mr. Ruby.

Plus the fact that I do want to get in my feeling for Americanism. and how I felt, because---remember--there may be unseen persons that may not believe in my sincerity, so I want that specifically asked--how I feel about my country I live in and so on, unless it's repeating something. Is it?

Mr. Specter.

Well, we will ask it of you again so that there's no question about. We will formulate the question, "Do you consider yourself to be a 100 percent American patriot?"

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

And then we'll ask the general question about whether every bit of information you've given us today has been the whole truth?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

All right, will you proceed, Mr. Herndon and ask those two questions.

Mr. Ruby.

One more thing--shouldn't you ask me, or isn't it necessary, why I suddenly was so carried away to get involved in this serious crime?

Mr. Alexander.

Jack, that won't work on the machine.

Mr. Specter.

We have to ask you a "Yes" or "No" question, and we've already covered that by asking you the question about Mrs. Kennedy--whether you didn't shoot Oswald to avoid having her come to trial.

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; that covers that.

Mr. Specter.

That covers that subject.

Mr. Ruby.

In other words, I can't answer that truthfully and have another reason for doing it; is that correct?

Mr. Specter.

Correct.

Mr. Ruby.

That would answer that?

Mr. Specter.

Yes. We've asked you all the reasons----

Mr. Ruby.

But you don't ask me why I did it, though? Why I was carried away so much--you don't ask me that.

Mr. Specter.

We did ask you--we asked you "Why did you shoot Oswald?"

Mr. Ruby.

But you don't ask me why I got carried away so?

Mr. Specter.

Well, it's the same question.

Mr. Ruby.

Oh, it's the same question.

Mr. Specter.

This is the same question--in the form of: "Did you do it in order to save Mrs. Kennedy the travel of a trip to Dallas?" That subject matter has been covered as comprehensively as we can through the polygraph.