(Testimony of Jack L. Ruby)
Mr. Tonahill.
It's all under the building, not the ramp.
Mr. Fowler.
Actually, I think what he is thinking of is that there is an alley too.
Mr. Alexander.
It wouldn't be accessible.
Mr. Fowler.
It would make it very difficult to get down into the basement from the alley.
Mr. Alexander.
All right, if Jack knows we're talking about "alley," as long as you distinguish between the alley and the ramp, so he can answer your question.
Mr. Tonahill.
He has always referred to it as a ramp.
Mr. Ruby.
That's a ramp.
Mr. Specter.
By "alley," we do not mean the ramp. We mean the entrance into the building.
Mr. Tonahill.
Now, you've got him squared away.
Mr. Specter.
Fine. We want you to understand the question exactly.
Mr. Herndon.
The question will stand as is.
Mr. Tonahill.
Why don't you read the question?
Mr. Herndon.
Just leave the question as it is?
Mr. Specter.
Leave it as it is.
Mr. Herndon.
The next question I'm going to ask, or one of the questions I will ask. will be, "Did you walk past the guard at the time Lieutenant Pierce's car was parked on the exit?"
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
You said it was parked?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
I think I'll put it "on the ramp exit" so it's perfectly clear, and I will repeat the question.
The question again, "Did you walk past the guard at the time Lieutenant Pierce's car was parked on the ramp exit?"
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
Now, the other questions here, "Did you talk with any Dallas police officers on Sunday, November 24, prior to shooting Oswald?"
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
Other questions I intend to ask on this next series, Mr. Ruby are: "Did you previously live in Chicago?" Mr. RUBY. Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
"Are your parents alive?"
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
This next question, and you don't have to answer it now. You can answer it on the test. "Did you ever make a false insurance claim?"
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
You are a man in business and you would probably have insurance on perhaps your car, your personal life and your business?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
I just wondered if you ever made a false insurance claim?
Mr. Ruby.
No--I see what you mean--No, I have it on an automobile.
Mr. Herndon.
I put this question in here I'm not sure, actually, but "Do you still operate the Carousel Club?"
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
You don't?
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
All right. The questions will be: "Do you still operate the Carousel Club? Were you on the sidewalk at the time Lieutenant Pierce's car stopped on the ramp exit? Did you previously live in Chicago? Did you enter the jail by walking through an alleyway? Are your parents alive? Did you walk past the guard at the time Lieutenant Pierce's car was parked on the ramp exit? Did you ever make a false insurance claim? Did you talk with any Dallas police officers on Sunday, November 24, prior to the shooting of Oswald?"
Do you understand all those questions and can you answer them clearly and simply "Yes" or "No"?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Alexander.
Apparently this is series 5?
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