Mr. Hubert.

Let me follow this through a bit. Didn't they, in fact, ask you if you had heard the rumor that Oswald had been in the club?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't know exactly how he asked me about it, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Didn't he ask you, in fact, if you had ever seen him in the club?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe he asked me that question; yes. I believe he might have. My answer would have been----

Mr. Hubert.

Is your statement to us if he asked you that question it would not have recalled to your memory that someone had told you that he had been in the club?

Mr. Crafard.

My statement is that it did not at that time.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you a little bit frightened when the FBI talked with you?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I don't believe so.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you at all concerned that your flight from Dallas might make you a suspect of some sort?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't believe I don't remember having any such belief; no.

Mr. Griffin.

What was your feeling towards the FBI when they talked to you?

Mr. Crafard.

That they were talking to me because of the fact that I had worked for Ruby, and they wanted to know what I knew about Ruby's movements in hopes that there might be something there that would help them in their investigation.

Mr. Griffin.

At the time when you talked to the FBI you formed a tentative opinion about the connection between Ruby and Oswald or the motivation for Jack's doing what he did?

Mr. Crafard.

I figured, formed the opinion, myself, as far as I could figure Jack must have been out of his mind to shoot Oswald.

Mr. Griffin.

Was this, would you say this was a strong opinion that you had?

Mr. Crafard.

No. I will say that it is the sort of opinion I have now, it has been right along ever since I found out that Ruby had shot Oswald.

Mr. Griffin.

But in spite of having that opinion that there was somewhere along the line you began to think if there could be any connection between Ruby and Oswald?

Mr. Crafard.

I have considered the fact that there was a connection; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

When did you start to think about this?

Mr. Crafard.

I imagine I more likely thought about it as soon as I found out or just shortly after I found out that Ruby had shot Oswald.

Mr. Griffin.

In trying to think about that connection, have you been thinking about this rather regularly since then?

Mr. Crafard.

No. I have pretty well forgot Just about, even, almost forgot about it entirely.

Mr. Griffin.

How long would you say it has been that you have been--have forgotten about any thoughts you might have had that there could be a connection between Ruby and Oswald?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, I have just almost completely--I haven't had a thought about any of this since I appeared at the trial. I was of the opinion that I was through with it and that I would just as soon forget about it.

Mr. Griffin.

How about when you started to work in the oil field up there in Michigan for the drilling company? At that time, did you ponder from time to time whether there was any connection between Ruby and Oswald?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember doing so; no.

Mr. Griffin.

Keeping these sort of questions in mind, can you tell us when it was before today that you first remembered that somebody might have told you that Oswald had been at the club?

Mr. Crafard.

I know definitely that I was told by somebody that Oswald had been in the club, but I haven't given that fact too much thought until we was talking this afternoon during the lunch break there, and it seemed to me the statement had been made to me before I left Dallas.

Mr. Griffin.

I am asking you when you remembered that statement. Keep in mind I am distinguishing between the time you actually heard the statement made and when you first remembered it again.

Mr. Crafard.

I remembered heating the statement that Oswald had been in the club, but I believe there was something in the news about the fact that he had been in the club two or three times.