Mr. Burleson.

And Bellows is in an advisory capacity to help any way he can?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right. I'm sorry I forgot about some of them.

Mr. Burleson.

Now, going to this money situation--as far as you know, recognizing that you are under oath--as far as you know, there were no contributions of any large sum other than the one $250 that you have talked about.

Mrs. Grant.

That was the largest and the one and only of that kind.

Mr. Burleson.

Have you heard rumors that the Ruby defense fund received large sums?

Mrs. Grant.

I have heard they got--I think they've got close to a thousand dollars--I may be wrong.

Mr. Burleson.

I mean, have you heard rumors for instance, not too long ago I heard a rumor that Stanley Marcus gave $25,000; have you heard rumors similar to that?

Mrs. Grant.

I have heard many of those kind by different people but we haven't received it.

Mr. Burleson.

You know nothing about any such large sum?

Mrs. Grant.

(Shaking head so as to indicate a negative reply.)

Mr. Hubert.

She is shaking her head--the answer is "no".

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, I'm sorry; no.

Mr. Burleson.

Mainly, the only things you know about personally or have heard about from other members of the family are the sale to the magazine of the story, which you have told us about, and the small amount you have told us about?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes.

Mr. Burleson.

And you know of no organization that has given any sum?

Mrs. Grant.

Not that I know--they may be now--Earl is trying to talk to some organizations that he belongs to like B'nai B'rith, that he used to belong to---I don't know. This is what I know--what I told you.

Mr. Burleson.

All right, but you don't know of any--say--labor unions or civic clubs or anything like that that have given any money?

Mrs. Grant.

I'm sure---I'm sure they haven't. In fact, wait a minute Michael Levin, another good friend of the family--we know him only for 45 years and he's my older brother's friend since they were 14 years old and he has compiled a letter and is asking certain individuals that he knows--doctors, lawyers, big business people to contribute, and when I talked to Eileen last, which was Saturday, she said, "We didn't receive one "some of them don't even answer the letters and some say they haven't got it or something else.

Mr. Burleson.

Now, there were some reports in the newspapers concerning the fact that Dr. Hubert Winston Smith was going to raise a lot of money.

Mrs. Grant.

Well, we hope he's going to raise a lot of money--we hope he can raise sufficient money to cover legal fees. He's interested in an academy institute of law and science.

Mr. Burleson.

Have you received any money from Dr. Winston Smith?

Mrs. Grant.

No; and I don't think he's gotten anything or even worked on it yet.

Mr. Burleson.

Now, to clarify my position in the thing--you have paid me, the family has paid me a total for everything, somewhere in the neighborhood of $700 or $800 or $900?

Mrs. Grant.

At the most--that's right.

Mr. Burleson.

You are trying to get more together, though, aren't you?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, now, wait a minute Belli was supposed to pay out of that $13,000--$2,000---I asked him what he was going to pay you. He didn't pay you?

Mr. Burleson.

Right.

Mrs. Grant.

As he told me.

Mr. Burleson.

Right.

Mrs. Grant.

And I know he didn't pay you--that was up until the time he didn't pay you at that time.

Mr. Burleson.

But I have entered into a verbal contract with you and the other members of the family for you to compensate. me on the appeal and things of that nature----right?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes.