Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Your thought is that you got the statement that Ruby--that Oswald had been in the Carousel Club from a person?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, if it was after you left Dallas, can you help-us as to what person that might have been?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I cannot.

Mr. Hubert.

Would it have been any of your relatives?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Would it have been anybody you worked with?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I don't believe so. If it had been after I left Dallas it would have been somebody who picked me up when I was hitchhiking.

Mr. Griffin.

You indicated to me, Larry, I think in the car, that Sunday you watched television someplace, that you may have seen this on television Sunday.

Mr. Crafard.

No; I didn't see television Sunday, I was on the road all the time.

Mr. Griffin.

You didn't stop in any restaurants or bars and watch television along the way?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I watched television the day of the assassination and saw him on the morning after.

Mr. Hubert.

On Monday?

Mr. Crafard.

No; the morning after the assassination, Saturday.

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

On Saturday between the time that you talked with Ruby, when you called him at his home----

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And the time that you left Dallas, did you see anybody other than the man at the garage with whom you left the key?

Mr. Crafard.

Not to talk to anybody; no.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you rode out of Dallas with that man whom you had met at the State Fair, did you talk with him about the assassination?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't believe we discussed it very much. He was telling me about his place out on the lake more than anything else, so far as I recall.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he know you had worked for Jack Ruby?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe there was something said about the fact that I worked for Ruby.

Mr. Griffin.

Did this man know Jack Ruby?
Mr. CRAFARD, No.

Mr. Griffin.

Is it possible that he would have mentioned having seen Oswald at the Carousel?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I don't believe so.

Mr. Griffin.

Had he ever been in the Carousel?

Mr. Crafard.

To my knowledge, no.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, on Saturday---or on Friday, rather, the day of the assassination, did you and Andy and Jack Ruby watch television at the Carousel?

Mr. Crafard.

Some, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember seeing Oswald's picture on television on Friday?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember it, no.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember watching television or listening to the radio when it was announced that Oswald had been apprehended and was the suspect?

Mr. Crafard.

Let's see. I believe we heard that over the television.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have any recollection of who was present when you heard that?

Mr. Crafard.

I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Larry, do you have a recollection on Friday of your activities from the time Andy woke you up until Jack left to go to Eva Grant's house? Can you reconstruct for us your activities in some detail?

Mr. Crafard.

Just a vague outline is all I can do.

Mr. Griffin.

Try to reconstruct this as best you can, what you did first, how long you watched television, and so forth.

Mr. Crafard.

I had the television on the rest of the day up until about--it must have been about 7 or 7:30 when I turned the television off.