Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How close a cousin was that to you, a first cousin?

Mr. Crafard.

A first cousin.

Mr. Hubert.

Was there any sort of affection between you?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; there was.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you told that to the girls?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe I said something to them about the fact.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see Gall when you stopped with your aunt?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, she knew you worked for Ruby at a Carousel Club?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

When you got to see her, the news was out that Ruby had killed Oswald?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you speak to her about your connection with Ruby?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe we discussed it; yes. I know we talked about it. I told her about what I had done for Jack, what kind of work I had done with him.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you tell her when you left?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you' tell her or them--by them I mean your aunt and uncle the circumstances under which you had left?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't know for sure if I did or not, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You must have told them that you left prior to Oswald's being shot.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I told them that I had left Saturday, about noon Saturday.

Mr. Hubert.

Did they seem to express any concern about the matter?

Mr. Crafard.

Not that I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you come to form in your own mind some concern about the matter?

Mr. Crafard.

Not other than the fact that I figured that I did say if I heard anything in the news about looking for an employee of Ruby's that had left, I would go to the law officers and let them know who I was and that I had been working for Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

But, as I understand it, then, the only one that really discussed with you the position or the suspicion that you might be under was your sister, and that neither your aunt nor your uncle nor your cousin, Gall, nor your other cousin, Cliff Roberts, and his wife, expressed any concern or discussed the matter with you at all?

Mr. Crafard.

Not that I can recall where there was anything said about that I might be suspected of anything.

Mr. Hubert.

The only one you really talked to about that was your sister?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You got to see her, I think, the night before the FBI came, didn't you?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

So that you really hadn't had an opportunity to listen to any radios or newspapers or to see whether anyone was looking for one of Jack's employees who had left suddenly?

Mr. Crafard.

Not too much; no.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you had any?

Mr. Crafard.

Just in the cars, when I was riding in the cars if they had the radio on and the news was on I could hear whatever come over the news that way.

Mr. Hubert.

That concern, then, that resolution of yours that if you heard about that you would turn yourself in to the police was formed much earlier than when you got to see your sister?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

It Was formed when?

Mr. Crafard.

Shortly after I heard, found out that Ruby had shot Oswald. I decided the fact if I heard anything in the news about that--that they was hunting for one of Ruby's employees---I would have gone to the nearest law officers and told them that I had been an employee of Ruby's.