Mr. Ruby.

have only been there I don't remember being there, but if I had been there, I would have been there only for a day. I think he asked me if I lived there for any length of time, if I recall, but I am not sure. I don't recall this---

Mr. Griffin.

Were you in the drycleaning business on Cicero Avenue at that time?

Mr. Ruby.

As far as I know, yes; I had an independent cleaning route at that time. I used to call on friends and pick up their cleaning and deliver it right to their home.

Mr. Griffin.

You didn't operate a cleaning plant?

Mr. Ruby.

No, no; but this is where I worked out of. Maybe he just cut it short. I brought my cleaning to this plant in Chicago, on Cicero Avenue, in Chicago, they cleaned it and charged me a wholesale price and I added on a profit, of course.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to hand you what has been marked as "Exhibit 8, Washington, D.C., June 3, 1964, deposition of Earl Ruby." It consists of two pages numbered 210 and 211 and purports to be a copy of a report which Agent George Parfet prepared with respect to that interview he had with you on November 28 at South Field, Mich.

Mr. Ruby.

I didn't sign the other one.
(Earl Ruby Exhibits Nos. 5, 6, 7, and 8 were marked for identification.)

Mr. Griffin.

I will state for the record then, you have just signed Exhibit No. 7, and if you will look at Exhibit No. 8, tell us if there are any changes or corrections you would make in that.

Mr. Ruby.

Here again it is almost a duplicate of the previous, what do you call it again, number?

Mr. Griffin.

Interview report.

Mr. Ruby.

What is this?

Mr. Griffin.

That is Exhibit No. 8, and this is Exhibit No. 7 that I have here.

Mr. Ruby.

The last paragraph again as stated in the previous one. They are almost identical.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; it looks like they are identical copies and they were just included in different places in our materials.
Let me hand it to you then and let me ask you to sign it.

Mr. Ruby.

Sign it anyhow?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; Exhibit No. 8.

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; Exhibit No. 8.
I finally hand you what has been marked for identification as "Exhibit No. 9, Washington, D.C., June 3, 1964, deposition of Earl Ruby." This is a copy of a report which Agent Robichau made with you of an interview he had on December 2, 1963, at Detroit, Mich.
Would you tell us if you have any additions or corrections or changes to make in that?

Mr. Ruby.

No; this is correct. That she is not related in any way to our family.

Mr. Griffin.

All right.
Now, that concludes all the questions that I have, and I presume that Mr. Hubert has or he would have come back in.
Are there any topics that we haven't covered that you feel that we ought to---is there anything further that you would like to say? You have got the floor.

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; I think, and this took place at the trial, and after the first policeman had testified as to statements made by my brother Jack, that evening when I saw Jack, he told me that he is going to the electric chair.
He said because he never made any of those statements, and now he knows what Wade has in mind, because if Wade wants to send you to the chair he can, and he always does, and that is why he has the record that he has.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember who the first policeman was who testified?

Mr. Ruby.

No; I don't. And he told me on several occasions that he never made the statements the police testified that he did make, and in fact, if the record will be checked, it is proved that the statement that Dean made couldn't have been true--Officer Dean.

Mr. Griffin.

Why do you say that?