Mr. Ruby.

and Tonahill has that information in Dallas but I don't have the exact dates.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, do you know where he got the psychiatric aid?

Mr. Ruby.

In Chicago.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know what institution?

Mr. Ruby.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

You say Tonahill has this information?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know how this evidence happened to be given, or let me ask you this, how do you know this evidence was given by the FBI to Mr. Wade?

Mr. Ruby.

Tonahill.

Mr. Griffin.

Tonahill has told you?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; that it was given to Wade by the FBI.

Mr. Griffin.

How did Tonahill learn about this?

Mr. Ruby.

That I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Tonahill----

Mr. Ruby.

Well. he handled all the contacts with the FBI.

Mr. Griffin.

Tonahill did?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; more or less.

Mr. Griffin.

It is your understanding that the work of the trial team was divided up in such a way that only Tonahill dealt with the FBI, for the most part?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; as far as I know.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, so you have no personal information, further personal information, at this time about this psychiatric help which Jack got at age 10?

Mr. Ruby.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

When Jack was 10 was he living in the home?

Mr. Ruby.

In a foster home, yes; so far as I can understand.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, that would have made you 6, is that right?

Mr. Ruby.

Would have made me 6.

Mr. Griffin.

Where were you living at age 6?

Mr. Ruby.

To tell you the truth, I don't know but I think I was living in Chicago, of .course, and I don't remember the name. I think the name of the people were Speeves, but I don't know if I went to the farm, they sent me to a farm for a year, whether I was on a farm at the time but anyhow we weren't together those years.

Mr. Griffin.

For how many years were you separated from the rest of the family as a child?

Mr. Ruby.

To tell you the truth, I don't know when it started. I would say 5, 6 years maybe. I was in three foster homes that I remember all together. know I was on a farm, and then at two foster homes that I can distinctly remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember how old you were when you returned to the home of your family, your mother's and father's home?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, I think it was in 1928, 1928, so I must have been 13 years old.

Mr. Griffin.

And that would have made Jack 17.

Mr. Ruby.

Seventeen; I am not sure whether it was--I just don't remember. It has got to be a little before that. Because I went to that Shepherd School for a few years, it had to be there from 1925 to 1928, but I don't know exactly.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you living in the home when you went to the Shepherd School?

Mr. Ruby.

You mean was I living with the family?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Jack living with the family at that time?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; that is when we were all brought back together.

Mr. Griffin.

Had Jack finished high school at that time?

Mr. Ruby.

No, no; Jack didn't finish high school.

Mr. Griffin.

No; but was Jack still attending school when he returned to the home?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; he was.

Mr. Griffin.

Are you able to recall how long Jack continued to attend school after you returned to the family, to your family?