Mr. Ruby.

together. And not only that, I was married then, and you know he has been a bachelor all his life so he went to places

Mr. Griffin.

You traveled with him, didn't you in the early forties you traveled with Jack, didn't you?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; a little bit.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, look back on that experience, if you can, do you remember any episodes from that?

Mr. Ruby.

Actually, you must understand I didn't travel with him. I only met him every weekend. He traveled by himself, and I traveled by myself, and we got together on weekends and then we would only see each other Friday night and then he would go on.
And we traveled through the East mostly.

Mr. Griffin.

Mr. Ruby, you have brought certain papers with you, and Mr. Hubert is now in the room, and I want to bring him up to date a little bit on where we are, and we have been talking sometime about your brother's obsession, as I think you call it, with his position in society as a person of Jewish background, and you indicated to me that you really only fully became aware of this problem since your brother shot Oswald, but that you have thought about it considerably since then, and that you have brought with you certain papers in connection with it.

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

I wonder first if you can first identify a paper in your hand, if you will identify that paper, and I will give it an exhibit number.

Mr. Ruby.

What would you call this----

Mr. Griffin.

You are handing me----

Mr. Ruby.

This document.

Mr. Griffin.

A document that consists of 30 typewritten pages purporting to have been prepared by a man named Sol Dann, 1820 David Stott Building, Detroit 26, Mich. This is a Xerox copy and on the first page I am going to write your name "Earl Ruby Deposition, June 3, 1964, Exhibit No. 1" and I will ask you if you will state for the record what that is.
(Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 was marked for identification.)

Mr. Ruby.

Well, this I would like to get into the record if I can.

Mr. Griffin.

What is Exhibit No. I and then I will mark this other thing that you gave me.

Mr. Ruby.

This is only what I want to state.

Mr. Griffin.

Exhibit No. 1, tell us what that is. In a general fashion tell us what that consists of.

Mr. Ruby.

Well, this is as was stated, prepared by Mr. Dann as to why or one of the reasons, that Ruby, that is Jack Ruby, shot Oswald.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Now, you have also handed me a handwritten penciled set of papers consisting of three pages.

Mr. Ruby.

I was going to read that, is that all right?

Mr. Griffin.

Certainly.

Mr. Ruby.

That was my intention if it is all right with you.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have a statement you would like to make for the record?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

All right, go ahead then.

Mr. Ruby.

I am filing this document with you because it explains why I need the help of the United States, and more especially, your help.
My brother, Jack, was deprived, and is presently being deprived, of his constitutional and civil rights. The hatred and bigotry in Dallas, Tex., resulted in the assassination of our President. It almost cost the lives of our present President, Mr. Johnson, and others.
With all the protection that this Government could give it could not guard against and prevent the assassination.
My family and myself are unable to cope with that .situation and it may result in my brother's death.
As pointed out in this document, my brother, Jack, is being made the scapegoat of this horrible situation. I, therefore, need, and respectfully request, your assistance in order that those guilty of this atrocity, either because of their