(Testimony of Earl Ruby Resumed)
Mr. Griffin.
Do you know--can you give us the names of some of these people?
Mr. Ruby.
No; but my sister has them down there. I don't have it. But I know of these instances, and he read all these books on the Jewish problem, the persecution of the Jews, going all the way back.
Mr. Griffin.
How do you know that?
Mr. Ruby.
I know from my sister. He lived with my sister and she told me, and he told me both.
Mr. Griffin.
Is this Eva?
Mr. Ruby.
Eva; yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Jack has told you that he read books on the Jewish problems?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes; he even went to lectures on it, the synagogue, they had movies of the killings of the Jews in Germany. He went to all of these, things of that sort.
Mr. Griffin.
I don't know if Mr. Hubert has covered this or not, but do you recall an episode or a period back before World War II when Jack showed some concern about the Jewish problem, about the treatment of the Jews?
Mr. Ruby.
Before World War II?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Ruby.
You mean--well, he was in Chicago in the early thirties, they had the Nazi Bund meetings and Jack was always one to go and see if he could help break them up.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you go on any of these groups?
Mr. Ruby.
No, no.
Mr. Griffin.
Well----
Mr. Ruby.
He was about 4 years older than I am.
Mr. Griffin.
Over what period of time was Jack involved in trying to break up these Bund meetings?
Mr. Ruby.
In the early thirties there, I don't remember.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember any other people who participated with him in those?
Mr. Ruby.
No; I don't know their names.
Mr. Griffin.
Was this a group of people or would Jack go alone?
Mr. Ruby.
No, no; it was a group. But I don't know the other names.
Mr. Griffin.
Was it any sort of organized group? Was there an organization that he belonged to?
Mr. Ruby.
No; I don't think it was an organization. It just was several Jewish fellows and I don't think they had an organization of any kind. Just when they learned that meetings were taking place, they would go there and try to break them up.
Mr. Griffin.
Was Jack ever arrested in connection with any of those?
Mr. Ruby.
Not as far as I know, because he has no arrest along those lines at all.
In fact, the only violation he has, from what I could gather, was being open after hours, and carrying concealed weapons which, from what I understand, they don't need a permit in Dallas, you know, when he carried large sums of money.
Other than that--you must understand I was away from him, practically from the time he went to Dallas until the incident. I only saw him for short periods of time.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you ever hear of the Dave Miller gang?
Mr. Ruby.
Oh, yes.
Mr. Griffin.
What was the Dave Miller gang?
Mr. Ruby.
Well, I read about them in the paper. I was just a school kid then, but that was a gang that hung around Dave Miller's fight gymnasium, that is all I can remember. But I know something like that existed.
Mr. Griffin.
How did they get newspaper publicity?
Mr. Ruby.
I don't know.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Jack have anything to do with those people?
Mr. Ruby.
He used to hang around Dave Miller's gym but he was Barney Ross' follower like, and I think Barney Ross trained there and so he was very close with him.
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