Mr. Ruby.

Gee, I would say probably until 6 o'clock. That is my usual hour.

Mr. Griffin.

Then what did you do?

Mr. Ruby.

Friday I always go home to dinner Friday night because it is traditional in our family. Jewish people, we have a big meal on Friday nights, so very, very seldom would I miss a Friday night dinner. I am quite sure I went home.

Mr. Griffin.

You don't have any specific recollection of what you did Friday night?

Mr. Ruby.

No; I was deeply upset, like most everybody else, I think, and I went home I know at 6 o'clock.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have a specific recollection of going home And being at home on Friday night?

Mr. Ruby.

No; not specific, but I can't see what else I would have done but go home to eat.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall what you did in the evening after you ate, Friday evening?

Mr. Ruby.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Is it your practice to go to religious services on Friday?

Mr. Ruby.

You wouldn't go on Friday night, would you? No; I don't go on Friday night.

Mr. Griffin.

Are you of the Jewish faith?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And do you have a particular temple or synagogue?

Mr. Ruby.

More or less, yes, but I am not what you call Orthodox. The Orthodox, you know, just like other religions, they go every chance they get more or less. But I am not of the Orthodox.

Mr. Griffin.

But the temple or synagogue that you belong to, when does it regularly hold services?

Mr. Ruby.

It probably holds them--I don't know. I know they have them Saturday. Saturday they always have services. I don't think they have services there Friday night. They don't have services on Friday night as far as I know.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall your own religious practices when you were living in Chicago with Jack? Did your practices and feelings at that time differ from his?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, I would say---can you make that a lithe more clear?

Mr. Griffin.

Looking back to the time when you and Jack saw each other regularly when you were in Chicago, when Jack was in Chicago, were your religious practices the same as they are now? Were you any more religious then? Did you observe the holidays more closely?

Mr. Ruby.

You want to compare Jack with myself?

Mr. Griffin.

First of all, let me ask you about your own practice.

Mr. Ruby.

Well, you must understand, first, that it is very unusual for a Jewish boy not to be bar mitzvah.

Mr. Griffin.

I am not asking about particular ceremonies, but I am asking you about the regular habits of weekly attendance and so forth. Did they differ in the period before 1948 from the way they are now?

Mr. Ruby.

Mine?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Ruby.

Well, I would say I go more often since I got married, of course, because that is the Jewish tradition. When you get married, you have children, my kids go to Hebrew school, they went to parochial school, in fact my son graduated from the Hebrew school in Chicago, and so I would say I am more religious since we have children.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you were single in Chicago, how did your religious practices differ from Jack's?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, I would say he was a little more religious than I was.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he attend the synagogue or temple more often than you did?

Mr. Ruby.

I would say more often than I did.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he go regularly?

Mr. Ruby.

I wouldn't say regularly, but he did go more often than I did.