Mr. Ruby.

No; I didn't see him for about almost a year.

Mr. Hubert.

And you made no effort to correct that situation?

Mr. Ruby.

Oh, yes; I talked and members of the family talked to him, and finally in order to dissolve it, I even called Jack and had him come up from Dallas to see if he could, you know, make peace in the family, and he just couldn't do it.

Mr. Hubert.

That would have been around 1954 or 1955?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; right in there.

Mr. Hubert.

Then when you bought out Jack, did you continue to operate the Earl Products Co. alone?

Mr. Ruby.

You mean Sam?

Mr. Hubert.

Sam I mean; yes.

Mr. Ruby.

Oh, yes; I operated until 1959.

Mr. Hubert.

Then what happened to the company?

Mr. Ruby.

Then I sold it.

Mr. Hubert.

To whom?

Mr. Ruby.

To Herschel Oliff, and the reason I sold it was I was manufacturing a line of novelties, and the Japan imports were just cutting down my business and I could see the handwriting on the wall, so I decided I had better get out while I can, which I did.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Then what did you do?

Mr. Ruby.

Then I didn't work for, oh, 6 or 8 months.

Mr. Hubert.

I assume you were living off of the profits?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, he was paying me.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean the purchaser, Mr. Oliff, was paying you?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; he gave me so much down and so much a week so I was able to get along. Anyhow, at that time I became depressed and I was thinking of doing away with myself, so I went over to the veterans hospital in Chicago and talked to them over there, and they suggested I come in there, which I did, and I stayed a few weeks.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean you were hospitalized?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; they hospitalized me in the psychopathic ward there, and I stayed there a week or two, and then I couldn't see there were so many of us and they couldn't, at least I didn't think they were helping me, so I left one day. I just up and walked out; but then I got sick again.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean you became depressed again?

Mr. Ruby.

I became depressed again.

Mr. Hubert.

How long after?

Mr. Ruby.

Oh, just a few days.

Mr. Hubert.

So you went back?

Mr. Ruby.

So I went back again. Then I decided well, the only way I can help myself, I mean I can do myself any good, is get out of this place and get a job.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you married then?

Mr. Ruby.

Oh, yes; sure.

Mr. Hubert.

That was to your first wife then?

Mr. Ruby.

No, no.

Mr. Hubert.

Your second wife?

Mr. Ruby.

Second wife, and I said I've got my family you know, I had better take care of them. The only thing that will help me, at least that was my thinking, is to go out and get a job and maybe that is what I need, you know, because I felt that I wouldn't be able to hold a job or something. Anyhow those were my thoughts. So, I went out and got a job for Worldwide Music in Chicago.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the nature of that work?

Mr. Ruby.

They sell and place juke boxes.
The Seeberg Agency and the Rockola Distributors, a pretty big company, nice people, and I worked there about a year.

Mr. Hubert.

What was your specific Job?

Mr. Ruby.

I was, I would say assistant manager. I supervised the other men and the servicemen.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't actually make the contacts with the taverns?