Mr. Hubert.

which indicated that the contact during the gunrunning proposition was supposed to be at this hotel in Guadalajara?

Mrs. Rich.

I don't remember what it was I turned up. I think it was then--I know I turned up an address book with a telephone number in it. I forgot whether that was here or in Oakland. And some cards. I know what it was. It was on the back of a business card. That's right. It was on the hack of a business card I turned that up. Yes; it was when I called them--because I had gone through my strongbox after my stuff had got here.

Mr. Hubert.

But the information that you had gotten concerning the contact point as being in this hotel in Guadalajara, that information was obtained by you at one of the meetings that you have just described.

Mrs. Rich.

It was obtained there; yes. And if I remember, it had eluded me when I first talked to them. And if I am not mistaken--I should have brought it--I have it on the back of a business card at home, that I turned up among some of my old business cards from Dallas in an envelope. Now, whether or not I had recalled that and told them at the first meeting or whether it was part of the additional information I don't remember. But it seems to me I turned that business card up and did not remember that at the first talking with the FBI.

Mr. Griffin.

Whose name was on the front of the business card?

Mrs. Rich.

Some advertising agency. It was just some card I marked it down on.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you in the advertising business in 1961?

Mrs. Rich.

Yes; I was.

Mr. Hubert.

Where?

Mrs. Rich.

In Boston. I handled the National Automatic Merchandising Association NAMA Week.

Mr. Hubert.

What part of 1961?

Mrs. Rich.

The first week in April we had the Governor proclaim it.

Mr. Hubert.

Who said that the contact was going to be at this hotel in Guadalajara?

Mrs. Rich.

I don't know which one said it, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember at what meeting this was said?

Mrs. Rich.

I believe at the third--the second. I wouldn't swear, but I think the third.

Mr. Hubert.

It was definitely not the first.

Mrs. Rich.

No; definitely not the first. Either the second or the third.

Mr. Hubert.

It was at the second that you had raised your price, I think, to. $25,000.

Mrs. Rich.

That is correct.

Mr. Hubert.

And it was either that meeting or the third meeting that you got the information about the contact point being in this hotel.

Mrs. Rich.

I am not sure which one it was, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

You indicated that you did not know where this house was located in Dallas.

Mrs. Rich.

I couldn't give you a street; no.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you give us a general area of Dallas?

Mrs. Rich.

I am sorry, sir, I wish I could. I would recognize the house if I saw it. I cannot explain the human mind to you. Why is it that sometimes if you don't want to remember something, you can block things off? It was something distasteful to me. I have perhaps not been a model person but----

Mr. Hubert.

Have you heard from this man Dave since you left Dallas?

Mrs. Rich.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Does the name Dave Cherry mean anything to you?

Mrs. Rich.

That's it. I have been wracking my brain for that name. A swell-looking fellow--crewcut, young, real college-looking type.

Mr. Hubert.

How long had you known him?

Mrs. Rich.

A couple of months.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you meet him?

Mrs. Rich.

University Club. I believe I met him there. Just precisely where I met him I don't know. I think the University Club.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that prior to the time your husband came to Dallas?

Mrs. Rich.

I don't remember if I met him before or after, to be truthful.