Mr. Hubert.

How long did you work with that police department?

Mrs. Rich.

Well, I left. That is why I discontinued my association with them. Again, as needed.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, altogether, how long were you there?

Mrs. Rich.

Altogether, if you want to put it running day by day, probably 3 weeks. If you want to say--actually I was associated with them probably 3 or 4 months.

Mr. Hubert.

That is what I meant.

Mrs. Rich.

But not worked steadily.

Mr. Hubert.

I understand.

Mrs. Rich.

And the Oakland Police Department.

Mr. Hubert.

Oakland, Calif.?

Mrs. Rich.

California.

Mr. Hubert.

And who did you work with there?

Mrs. Rich.

Oh, dear. I worked on grand theft. Lieutenant--I can't remember---whoever the lieutenant is in charge of grand theft detail. Lt. Parker.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay in Oakland with that association?

Mrs. Rich.

Again, about the same length of time as Hayward. I was working with both of them at the same time, and also Sacramento. In that type of work, you cannot get by in just one.

Mr. Hubert.

I don't think you mentioned Sacramento yet.

Mrs. Rich.

The district attorney's office, yes, I have. At this time, if necessary, I can introduce a letter into evidence verifying part of this testimony.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, do you wish to do so?

Mrs. Rich.

I believe I would.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, do you have the letter?

Mrs. Rich.

I do. Note for the record I hand a letter to Mr. Hubert, signed by Chief Deputy Kistle.

Mr. Hubert.

You have handed me this document. Do you wish--I assume you wish to keep the original.

Mrs. Rich.

That is the only one I have, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Would you mind if we had a copy made of it?

Mrs. Rich.

I would not.

Mr. Hubert.

And then we can hand you back the original.

Mrs. Rich.

That will be fine.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, now, when did you first meet Jack Ruby?

Mrs. Rich.

When I first reached Dallas, I, of course, went directly to the police station. Ironically enough, the first person I met was Mr. Tippit.

Mr. Hubert.

What is his first name? Are you referring to the Tippit who was shot on November 22d?

Mrs. Rich.

I would say so. I believe it is the only Tippit on the police force.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. So you met Mr. Tippit. And what happened then?

Mrs. Rich.

I walked in and plunked $4 on the desk and said, "Here I am." He said----

Mr. Hubert.

Well----

Mrs. Rich.

This was a joke. When I called him from Massachusetts, I told him when I hit there I would have 4 bucks in my pocket. It was rather a kind of a joke, actually. I said, "Here I am."
He said, "Oh, no; I told you not to do it."
I had talked to him previously on the phone. So that was all right. So he called in one of the patrolmen. And they get the Black Maria, go down to the bus depot and get my bags. And I had called Associated Press. I have many friends around the press world. Being in public relations, I would. And this Brice someone or other said, "You can go and stay with my wife for a couple of days until you get settled."
Three o'clock in the morning we start punching doorbells, with the suitcases in a Black Maria, trying to find Ann, and I couldn't remember the last name. So the next day they send up to pick me up and help me find a place and job.

Mr. Hubert.

When you say "they----

Mrs. Rich.

Meaning the police department of Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

What particular individuals?