Mr. Senator.

If he did I don't know. I'll tell you why, the reason I say that is because he has in the living room that has got one of these self-locks. Did you ever see these little locks on a door that you can lock. You know, you can sort of snip it off? It comes off, whatever kind of lock you call it?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Senator.

He has one of them. He had one of them in the living room. See, his apartment that night was confiscated. I don't know if it was the local police. I don't know who got in there. Somebody got in there, see.

Mr. Griffin.

But it certainly wasn't unusual, was it, for Jack to carry all of his money on his person and in his car?

Mr. Senator.

No; he has done that many times. But I'll tell you, when he is putting the money in his car he very seldom ever left it there for such a lengthy time like that. But this was his safest place as far as not carrying it all in his pocket.

Mr. Griffin.

And he felt that keeping it in the car was safer than keeping it in the house.

Mr. Senator.

This I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Now you say this was the longest time that you can remember lot or that much money around with him?

Mr. Senator.

Oh, no; I never said that.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you mean to say?

Mr. Senator.

I never said that.

Mr. Griffin.

In other words, there have been times when Jack, I take it there have been periods of 3 days or more when Jack has carried $2,000 or $3,000?

Mr. Senator.

Or more. No; this is an every day occurrence with him. This is a thing that materialized 7 days a week.

Mr. Griffin.

So there is nothing unusual about Jack Ruby having all that money in his automobile.

Mr. Senator.

No; it is always like that. Now if he has any money in the bank, I mean I can't quote that because I don't see that. See, he carries this money around 7 days a week. Now what he has in the bank, of course, I have quoted you that once before, I think that was yesterday, I don't know what he has got. Only when you ask what bank he has, when I mentioned the Merchants State Bank, I don't know if the guy has got $40 in there or $500, you know what I mean? I don't know.
Or whatever he has had in there or how he has had it. See, this is an unusual man when it comes to this money bit. I don't know how many times he asked me, "George, where is my money?" making me feel like I took it but he always misplaced it and always found it.

Mr. Griffin.

Is this a large sum of money that he misplaced?

Mr. Senator.

Sometimes it could be missing $200 or $300 or $400, I don't know. Whatever the stake is, he has about 4, 5 or 6 different stakes in different pockets. This man don't remember where the money is. This may sound crazy but it is true.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack own any real estate?

Mr. Senator.

No; what is he going to use for money for the real estate? A lot of people are under the impression that Jack had a lot of money. Jack didn't. Jack was, what would you classify him, as a walking bank?

Mr. Griffin.

He carried all his money on his person regardless of how much it was.

Mr. Senator.

Yes; this man was making who knows, I don't know how much money he has got and I can't break it down and say he is carrying 10, 5 or whatever. Who knows what he has got or how much it is. But there has been 2, 3, 4, maybe more.

Mr. Griffin.

What, hundred or thousand dollars?

Mr. Senator.

Thousands, whatever it is. Of course, as I told you, this all goes to the rent, the help, the electricity, you know, all the utilities and things. But he is a walking bank.

Mr. Griffin.

Is this common knowledge that he carried all this money around?

Mr. Senator.

That was common knowledge to me. How many other people knew it I don't know but I am certain other people knew it. Look, when the