Mr. Senator.

was no harm that would be done. But the shrill of his voice, you know he was around. You could hear it.

Mr. Griffin.

OK; let's go on there on page 298 from where we were.

Mr. Senator.

It says, "Ruby and Senator arose on November 24, and Senator noticed Ruby had brought one of four dogs which he ordinarily keeps at the Carousel home with him." He brings this same dog home every night. And when it says, "Ruby and Senator arose," it is like we woke up at the same time. That is not so.

Mr. Griffin.

This refers to Sunday morning, November 24; is that right?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And the correct statement of this would be that----

Mr. Senator.

I woke up before he did.

Mr. Griffin.

You woke up before he did, and that Jack always keeps Sheba----

Mr. Senator.

Always brings Sheba home every night.

Mr. Griffin.

Is it customary also for him to take Sheba down to the club every day?

Mr. Senator.

Both forth and back, forth and back.

Mr. Griffin.

Is Sheba with him wherever he goes?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; the dog is always with him. This was his pet. This was his favorite of a few dogs that he had.

Mr. Griffin.

OK; I think the record is clear enough on that; that we don't have to make any entry on the page.

Mr. Senator.

Of course, the-other is what we discussed before about the signs that you have on this page.

Mr. Griffin.

There is nothing in there about the signs, is there?

Mr. Senator.

None. Elmer Moore has the one about the signs. This is page 299. I forgot to tell you. I went to this restaurant, it says, to eat. I just had that coffee. The morning when I went down to eat on Main Street, it says I went down to eat. I only had coffee. "He estimated as he arrived there at approximately 11:30 and as he walked in the door he overheard one of the waitresses saying Oswald has been shot." This is not so.

Mr. Griffin.

This was after you sat down?

Mr. Senator.

I had been sitting already.

Mr. Griffin.

Is that on page 300 or page 299?

Mr. Senator.

299. Now he got this twisted.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you read the part that is twisted.

Mr. Senator.

Yes. "Shortly thereafter the waitress told Senator that Oswald had been shot by a local tavern operator, and a short while after that he learned the name of this individual to be Jack Ruby. He said he was dumfounded, and did not know what to do, but after a short while he went to the telephone and called Jim Martin on Gladiola Street, Dallas, as an attorney whom he knew." We went through that. Do you want to go through that again?

Mr. Griffin.

Well, I want to know if you say now, of course, that that is not what happened. Now, what did you tell the agent? Could you have told the agent that?

Mr. Senator.

No; when the waitress said that she heard .Oswald had been shot, I called Jim Martin, but nobody knew who. The daughter answered the phone and said her daddy was in church, and that he would be home in a short while.

Mr. Griffin.

It is your recollection that when you called Jim Martin, you couldn't get ahold of him, but you. talked to his daughter.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How old is his daughter?

Mr. Senator.

He had three of them, and I don't remember which one answered. Of course, one is too young. I don't know which one he went to church with. One is 15 or 16 and the other is, I think, 10 or 11.

Mr. Griffin.

And is there one even younger than 10 or 11?

Mr. Senator.

Well, an infant. Maybe she is 2 or 3 years old; something like that.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you tell the daughter who you were; who was calling? Did you leave word?

Mr. Senator.

I am not sure if I told her to tell her daddy that George called.