Mr. Griffin.

When was it that you first learned that Jack had spent sometime at the police station on Friday night? Did you ever learn it?

Mr. Senator.

You mean the Friday when he was bringing the sandwiches and things of that nature there?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes. When did you first learn about that?

Mr. Senator.

I think it was after he woke me up that morning. I think that is when he told me, and I think he mentioned it, yes, and then he mentioned that he went to the synagogue there Friday and prayed for the President, and that he saw his sister, and they were both crying, as it was related to me, over the President.

Mr. Griffin.

You didn't tell any of that to the----

Mr. Senator.

To who?

Mr. Griffin.

To the police department when you talked to them on the 24th, did you?

Mr. Senator.

I don't remember. See, yon must understand----

Mr. Griffin.

Why don't you take a look--well, go ahead.

Mr. Senator.

You must understand when a person is grabbed the way I was grabbed, or I will say not particularly me, but any human being, wouldn't it shake a human being up?

Mr. Griffin.

I take it the police department asked you to tell them everything you knew about what Jack had done.

Mr. Senator.

Let me say in the condition that I was in, I was pretty well shaken up at that time.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you feel that his being at the police department might hurt him?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know. I didn't think about that. That didn't even enter my mind whether it did or not. All I know is he said he took sandwiches over there, and that is all I know on that.

Mr. Griffin.

Now you also----

Mr. Senator.

Now why he took it over there, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

You also didn't mention----

Mr. Senator.

Maybe I forgot a lot of things at that particular time, being shook up.

Mr. Griffin.

You also didn't mention in this statement that you gave the police department on the 24th----

Mr. Senator.

Didn't what?

Mr. Griffin.

In the statement that you gave to the police department on the 24th

Mr. Senator.

I didn't mention what?

Mr. Griffin.

You did not mention anything about the telephone call from Little Lynn.

Mr. Senator.

Maybe I forgot that, too. Look, I told you, I was in a shookup state that first day. Maybe I did forget about it.

Mr. Griffin.

I am just wondering if these things, if you thought in your own mind that those events which you omitted----

Mr. Senator.

Was I trying to hide something?

Mr. Griffin.

Well, could hurt Jack, and you wanted to help Jack.

Mr. Senator.

I wasn't trying to hide anything. I definitely was not trying to hide anything. But you must understand, like I repeated, any individual in an event like this, now I can't speak for anybody else, but I would probably say they would be shaken up like I was, and I want you to know that I was really shook up, that that would make a lot of people forget a lot of things, and probably can't remember things, being grabbed that fast and being talked to that fast in that instantaneous--I was pretty well shaken up that day, very good.

Mr. Griffin.

But you did remember Jack talking about the President and you mentioned you remembered that you thought you saw tears in his eyes, and you remember his saying he was going to take his dog Sheba down to the club. I am just wondering why it is you remembered some of these things, but you didn't remember some other things which were just, perhaps should have been just as graphic, like going out to that impeach Earl Warren sign--that must have just stood out as a sore thumb to you.

Mr. Senator.

There was no particular reason. Now maybe a lot of things that